Re: [MMUSIC] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-12: (with DISCUSS)

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Tue, 07 April 2020 14:51 UTC

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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, "iesg@ietf.org" <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-12: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Christer,

On Tue, 2020-04-07 at 12:58 +0000, Christer Holmberg wrote:
> Hi Magnus,
> 
> Thank You for the review! Please see inline.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> DISCUSS:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     
> >    Section 4.1:
> >    
> >       The offerer and answerer MUST NOT include the max-retr or the max-
> >       time attribute parameters in the 'dcmap' attribute.
> >    
> >    This is just an example of a issue that is exists in basically all of the
> > RFC
> >    2119 terminolgy using sentences in this section. The formulation is that
> > the
> >    offerer or answerer must do something with attributes or parameters of
> > the
> >    dcmap attribute. However, it is not stated to be specific to the dcmap
> >    attribute that specifically specify something for a T.140 SCTP stream. I
> > think
> >    that scope restriction needs to be made more explicit for these RFC 2119
> >    statements. Else they would have applicability as soon as one support
> > this
> >    specification.
> 
>   
> The last sentence of Section 4 says:
> 
> "This section defines the SDP considerations that are specific to a T.140 data
> channel."

So why is that last and not first? So isn't this all scoped based on that there
is an dcsmap line with a subprotocol line stating t140 either included in an
offer that one is generating or responding to as an answerer? 

As you see I am undertain if the sentence is sufficient to scope this correctly.
Are there statement that are relevant outside of the scope of actually offering
or answering a T140 offer? I think part of the uncertainty is if there are
aspect that my be wrongly interpreted if one support T140 but it is not actively
included? 

Cheers

Magnus Westerlund 


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