Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclusive
Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> Mon, 25 January 2016 21:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclusive
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On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > Do you have data supporting this assertion? > I believe a=rtcp was developed to work in conjunction with RFC 3489. In practice such deployment scenarios are recipes for disaster since end points will end up not getting connected often enough for large groups of your customers to complain. Such architecture also has serious security problems. This entire architecture was later completely redesigned (see https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5389#section-2 for more details). Anything commercially viable is using either something like ICE or host based NAT traversal. I think we should strongly steer service implementers towards ICE when NAT support is required and do not extend or promote a=rtcp based solutions. ICE does mention a=rtcp but it is only used there for legacy interop with exiting end points which were designed to work with RFC 3489 derived addresses. I do not think a=rtcp has any use cases beyond such legacy interop. _____________ Roman Shpount
- [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclusive Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Kevin Dempsey
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Not fixing a=rtcp and rtcp-mux exclu… Roman Shpount