Re: [MMUSIC] New Version Notification for draft-abhishek-mmusic-superimposition-grouping-00.txt

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Rohit Abhishek <rabhishek@rabhishek.com>, "mmusic@ietf.org" <mmusic@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] New Version Notification for draft-abhishek-mmusic-superimposition-grouping-00.txt
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Hi,

A few comments (some of which I gave already previously):

Q1:

In Section 1, where you talk about the limitations of the mechanism, you should mention that CLUE must be used something more "fancy" is needed.

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Q2:

In Section 3, you require a specific order of the m- lines in the SDP. I think SDP explicitly says that the order of m- lines is not relevant. Also, I know that parsers may change the orders of the m- lines.

(I also think that any counting should start from 1, not 0)

My suggestion would be to have an explicit "order" attribute instead.

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Q3:

The example in Section 6 talks about "a background video". But, this background video is not described in the SDP.

Related to that, if the SDP describes multiple "background videos", you need to describe how you map superimposed videos to a specific background video. 

Based on the text in Section 3 (see Q2), I am not sure whether the 0th m- line is supposed to be the background video, but the text in Section 6 says that both m- lines are for superimposed video streams.

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Q4:

What happens to the superimposed videos if I disable/remove/mute the background video?

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Q5:

This is editorial, but please call the group attribute something else than just "S". "supim", "spim" or something :)

Regards,

Christer



-----Original Message-----
From: mmusic <mmusic-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rohit Abhishek
Sent: lauantai 12. joulukuuta 2020 0.28
To: mmusic@ietf.org
Subject: [MMUSIC] FW: New Version Notification for draft-abhishek-mmusic-superimposition-grouping-00.txt

Dear All,

A new version of the draft “SDP Superimposition Grouping framework” has been uploaded. 
We have changed the name from  “SDP Overlay Grouping framework for immersive telepresence media streams” to  “SDP Superimposition Grouping framework” as the previous name wasn’t an accurate description of the content. Therefore, we had to start from version 00.

Thank you all for the comments/suggestions on the previous draft.
We have tried to address them in this version. Specifically, a transparency attribute and an informative Section on relationship with CLUE has been added.

Comments/Questions/Feedbacks are welcome.

Best Regards,
Rohit

On 12/11/20, 12:41 PM, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:


    A new version of I-D, draft-abhishek-mmusic-superimposition-grouping-00.txt
    has been successfully submitted by Rohit Abhishek and posted to the
    IETF repository.

    Name:		draft-abhishek-mmusic-superimposition-grouping
    Revision:	00
    Title:		SDP Superimposition Grouping framework
    Document date:	2020-12-11
    Group:		Individual Submission
    Pages:		8
    URL:            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-abhishek-mmusic-superimposition-grouping-00.txt
    Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-abhishek-mmusic-superimposition-grouping/
    Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-abhishek-mmusic-superimposition-grouping
    Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-abhishek-mmusic-superimposition-grouping-00


    Abstract:
       This document defines semantics that allow for signaling a new SDP
       group "S" for superimposed media in an SDP session.  The "S"
       attribute can be used by the application to relate all the
       superimposed media streams enabling them to be added as an overlay on
       top of any media stream.  The superimposition grouping semantics is
       required, if the media data is separate and transported via different
       sessions.




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