Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates

Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> Sat, 12 December 2020 04:01 UTC

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From: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 20:01:21 -0800
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To: Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates
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Youenn and Qingsi have resolved several issues over the past week. There
are a few remaining issues to discuss, but I think we can have this ready
for last call within the month, perhaps earlier.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 5:20 PM Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>
wrote:

> Going back to the original question: What do the authors view as a
> realistic timeframe for getting the draft ready for publication ?
>
> Thanks
>
> -- Flemming
>
> On 10/22/20 1:54 AM, Justin Uberti wrote:
>
> This is currently supported in Safari iOS, and we are working to bring
> this to Chrome Android as well.
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 8:47 AM Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to see if there any implementations of this draft on mobile
>> networks. I think this draft's interactions with mobile network deployment
>> scenarios, such as 464XLAT, should be examined in detail before this draft
>> is ready for publication. Also, mDNS is not currently supported on Android,
>> which represents a significant portion of this draft use case, making some
>> of the implementation details a bit fuzzy. My main concern here is if the
>> mDNS name which is associated with one IP address always resolves to the
>> same IP address with the same address family when resolved on the same
>> network.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> _____________
>> Roman Shpount
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:04 AM Flemming Andreasen <fandreas=
>> 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>>> By publication we mean that the draft is considered to be in the final
>>> ready state with no known issues, whether technical or editorial. At that
>>> point, the Working Group chairs will do (another) thorough review of the
>>> document, and if it looks ready then ask for publication of the document,
>>> which means it will be sent to the responsible Area Director for review,
>>> and subsequently to the IESG for further review and eventually it's
>>> published as an RFC.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> -- Flemming
>>>
>>> On 10/21/20 10:48 AM, Youenn Fablet wrote:
>>>
>>> I am also fuzzy about what it means to publish the draft.
>>> It seems to me the document is ready for another version to be published.
>>> To produce the final version that we expect to go to validation, we
>>> should probably finish resolving the 8 remaining issues and update the spec
>>> according the resolutions of these 8 issues.
>>>
>>> On 21 Oct 2020, at 16:33, Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It all depends on how mature the draft is, especially in terms of its
>>> technical content. Also, we will need a few reviewers to look closely at
>>> the draft to see if there are any issues the authors may not have thought
>>> of.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> -- Flemming
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/20/20 10:55 PM, Qingsi Wang wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Flemming,
>>>
>>> I'm sorry for not being familiar with the process. In addition to
>>> editorial revisions and addressing comments, are there other prerequisites
>>> for publication?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Qingsi
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 7:47 PM Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Justin. What do the authors view as a realistic timeframe for
>>>> getting the draft ready for publication ?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> -- Flemming
>>>>
>>>> On 10/19/20 8:08 PM, Justin Uberti wrote:
>>>>
>>>> New draft posted (now with -mmusic name) and waiting for approval.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:40 PM Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This fell off my radar, will update the draft shortly though.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:13 AM Flemming Andreasen <fandreas=
>>>>> 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like we have at least 5 people interested in and willing to
>>>>>> contribute to the work. Based on this, the chairs will work with our AD on
>>>>>> getting a new milestone added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see that the current draft has expired though - can we get an
>>>>>> updated version submitted first ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Flemming (as MMUSIC co-chair)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/20 2:57 PM, Qingsi Wang wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am interested and willing to contribute to this document too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Qingsi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:51 AM Youenn Fablet <youenn=
>>>>>> 40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am interested and willing to contribute to the document.
>>>>>>> The proposal being implemented by various parties, having this
>>>>>>> document be reviewed and ironed out as much as possible is valuable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Y
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2 Sep 2020, at 20:09, Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far I've only seen 2 people expressing an interest in this
>>>>>>> document.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anybody else interested, and if so, are you willing to contribute
>>>>>>> and/or review the document ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Flemming (as MMUSIC co-chair)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/31/20 12:16 AM, Roman Shpount wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am strongly in favor of adopting this draft to MMUSIC and getting
>>>>>>> it completed.
>>>>>>> _____________
>>>>>>> Roman Shpount
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:33 PM Justin Uberti <juberti=
>>>>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the closure of rtcweb, we have been advised to find a new
>>>>>>>> forum for
>>>>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates-04,
>>>>>>>> and MMUSIC seems like the best home for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe this document is in fairly good shape and should be ready
>>>>>>>> for last call soon. Any objections to taking it on in this working group?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Justin
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