Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates
Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> Tue, 27 October 2020 00:20 UTC
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Cc: Youenn Fablet <youenn@apple.com>, Qingsi Wang <qingsi@google.com>, mmusic WG <mmusic@ietf.org>
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From: Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates
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Going back to the original question: What do the authors view as a realistic timeframe for getting the draft ready for publication ? Thanks -- Flemming On 10/22/20 1:54 AM, Justin Uberti wrote: > This is currently supported in Safari iOS, and we are working to bring > this to Chrome Android as well. > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 8:47 AM Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com > <mailto:roman@telurix.com>> wrote: > > I would like to see if there any implementations of this draft on > mobile networks. I think this draft's interactions with mobile > network deployment scenarios, such as 464XLAT, should be examined > in detail before this draft is ready for publication. Also, mDNS > is not currently supported on Android, which represents a > significant portion of this draft use case, making some of the > implementation details a bit fuzzy. My main concern here is if the > mDNS name which is associated with one IP address always resolves > to the same IP address with the same address family when resolved > on the same network. > > Best Regards, > _____________ > Roman Shpount > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:04 AM Flemming Andreasen > <fandreas=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org > <mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: > > By publication we mean that the draft is considered to be in > the final ready state with no known issues, whether technical > or editorial. At that point, the Working Group chairs will do > (another) thorough review of the document, and if it looks > ready then ask for publication of the document, which means it > will be sent to the responsible Area Director for review, and > subsequently to the IESG for further review and eventually > it's published as an RFC. > > Thanks > > -- Flemming > > On 10/21/20 10:48 AM, Youenn Fablet wrote: >> I am also fuzzy about what it means to publish the draft. >> It seems to me the document is ready for another version to >> be published. >> To produce the final version that we expect to go to >> validation, we should probably finish resolving the 8 >> remaining issues and update the spec according the >> resolutions of these 8 issues. >> >>> On 21 Oct 2020, at 16:33, Flemming Andreasen >>> <fandreas@cisco.com <mailto:fandreas@cisco.com>> wrote: >>> >>> It all depends on how mature the draft is, especially in >>> terms of its technical content. Also, we will need a few >>> reviewers to look closely at the draft to see if there are >>> any issues the authors may not have thought of. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> -- Flemming >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/20/20 10:55 PM, Qingsi Wang wrote: >>>> Hi Flemming, >>>> >>>> I'm sorry for not being familiar with the process. In >>>> addition to editorial revisions and addressing comments, >>>> are there other prerequisites for publication? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Qingsi >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 7:47 PM Flemming Andreasen >>>> <fandreas@cisco.com <mailto:fandreas@cisco.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Justin. What do the authors view as a realistic >>>> timeframe for getting the draft ready for publication ? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> -- Flemming >>>> >>>> On 10/19/20 8:08 PM, Justin Uberti wrote: >>>>> New draft posted (now with -mmusic name) and waiting >>>>> for approval. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:40 PM Justin Uberti >>>>> <juberti@google.com <mailto:juberti@google.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This fell off my radar, will update the draft >>>>> shortly though. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:13 AM Flemming Andreasen >>>>> <fandreas=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org >>>>> <mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It looks like we have at least 5 people >>>>> interested in and willing to contribute to the >>>>> work. Based on this, the chairs will work with >>>>> our AD on getting a new milestone added. >>>>> >>>>> I see that the current draft has expired >>>>> though - can we get an updated version >>>>> submitted first ? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> -- Flemming (as MMUSIC co-chair) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/2/20 2:57 PM, Qingsi Wang wrote: >>>>>> I am interested and willing to contribute to >>>>>> this document too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Qingsi >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:51 AM Youenn Fablet >>>>>> <youenn=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org >>>>>> <mailto:40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am interested and willing to contribute >>>>>> to the document. >>>>>> The proposal being implemented by various >>>>>> parties, having this document be reviewed >>>>>> and ironed out as much as possible is >>>>>> valuable. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Y >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2 Sep 2020, at 20:09, Flemming >>>>>>> Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com >>>>>>> <mailto:fandreas@cisco.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So far I've only seen 2 people >>>>>>> expressing an interest in this document. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is anybody else interested, and if so, >>>>>>> are you willing to contribute and/or >>>>>>> review the document ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Flemming (as MMUSIC co-chair) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/31/20 12:16 AM, Roman Shpount wrote: >>>>>>>> I am strongly in favor of adopting this >>>>>>>> draft to MMUSIC and getting it completed. >>>>>>>> _____________ >>>>>>>> Roman Shpount >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:33 PM Justin >>>>>>>> Uberti >>>>>>>> <juberti=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With the closure of rtcweb, we have >>>>>>>> been advised to find a new forum >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates-04, >>>>>>>> and MMUSIC seems like the best home >>>>>>>> for it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe this document is in >>>>>>>> fairly good shape and should be >>>>>>>> ready for last call soon. Any >>>>>>>> objections to taking it on in this >>>>>>>> working group? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Justin >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> mmusic mailing list >>>>>>>> mmusic@ietf.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org> >>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> mmusic mailing list >>>>>>>> mmusic@ietf.org <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org> >>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> mmusic mailing list >>>>>> mmusic@ietf.org <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org> >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> mmusic mailing list >>>>>> mmusic@ietf.org <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org> >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> mmusic mailing list >>>> mmusic@ietf.org <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org> >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mmusic mailing list >> mmusic@ietf.org <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list > mmusic@ietf.org <mailto:mmusic@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >
- [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Sean DuBois
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Sean DuBois
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Youenn Fablet
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Qingsi Wang
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Nils Ohlmeier
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Qingsi Wang
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Youenn Fablet
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Youenn Fablet
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Roman Shpount
- [MMUSIC] Question about draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ic… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Question about draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdn… Qingsi Wang
- Re: [MMUSIC] Question about draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdn… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Question about draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdn… Youenn Fablet
- Re: [MMUSIC] Question about draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdn… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates Christer Holmberg