Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates

Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> Mon, 14 December 2020 15:17 UTC

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From: Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates
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Thanks Justin

We submitted a milestone update a little while back and are just waiting 
for the AD go-ahead. In the meantime, it would be good to have any 
remaining issues discussed on the mailing list as well.

Cheers

-- Flemming

On 12/11/20 11:01 PM, Justin Uberti wrote:
> Youenn and Qingsi have resolved several issues over the past week. 
> There are a few remaining issues to discuss, but I think we can have 
> this ready for last call within the month, perhaps earlier.
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 5:20 PM Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com 
> <mailto:fandreas@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>     Going back to the original question: What do the authors view as a
>     realistic timeframe for getting the draft ready for publication ?
>
>     Thanks
>
>     -- Flemming
>
>     On 10/22/20 1:54 AM, Justin Uberti wrote:
>>     This is currently supported in Safari iOS, and we are working to
>>     bring this to Chrome Android as well.
>>
>>     On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 8:47 AM Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com
>>     <mailto:roman@telurix.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         I would like to see if there any implementations of this
>>         draft on mobile networks. I think this draft's interactions
>>         with mobile network deployment scenarios, such as 464XLAT,
>>         should be examined in detail before this draft is ready for
>>         publication. Also, mDNS is not currently supported on
>>         Android, which represents a significant portion of this draft
>>         use case, making some of the implementation details a bit
>>         fuzzy. My main concern here is if the mDNS name which is
>>         associated with one IP address always resolves to the same IP
>>         address with the same address family when resolved on the
>>         same network.
>>
>>         Best Regards,
>>         _____________
>>         Roman Shpount
>>
>>
>>         On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:04 AM Flemming Andreasen
>>         <fandreas=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org
>>         <mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>>
>>             By publication we mean that the draft is considered to be
>>             in the final ready state with no known issues, whether
>>             technical or editorial. At that point, the Working Group
>>             chairs will do (another) thorough review of the document,
>>             and if it looks ready then ask for publication of the
>>             document, which means it will be sent to the responsible
>>             Area Director for review, and subsequently to the IESG
>>             for further review and eventually it's published as an RFC.
>>
>>             Thanks
>>
>>             -- Flemming
>>
>>             On 10/21/20 10:48 AM, Youenn Fablet wrote:
>>>             I am also fuzzy about what it means to publish the draft.
>>>             It seems to me the document is ready for another version
>>>             to be published.
>>>             To produce the final version that we expect to go to
>>>             validation, we should probably finish resolving the 8
>>>             remaining issues and update the spec according the
>>>             resolutions of these 8 issues.
>>>
>>>>             On 21 Oct 2020, at 16:33, Flemming Andreasen
>>>>             <fandreas@cisco.com <mailto:fandreas@cisco.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             It all depends on how mature the draft is, especially
>>>>             in terms of its technical content. Also, we will need a
>>>>             few reviewers to look closely at the draft to see if
>>>>             there are any issues the authors may not have thought of.
>>>>
>>>>             Cheers
>>>>
>>>>             -- Flemming
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On 10/20/20 10:55 PM, Qingsi Wang wrote:
>>>>>             Hi Flemming,
>>>>>
>>>>>             I'm sorry for not being familiar with the process. In
>>>>>             addition to editorial revisions and addressing
>>>>>             comments, are there other prerequisites for publication?
>>>>>
>>>>>             Thanks,
>>>>>             Qingsi
>>>>>
>>>>>             On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 7:47 PM Flemming Andreasen
>>>>>             <fandreas@cisco.com <mailto:fandreas@cisco.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Thanks Justin. What do the authors view as a
>>>>>                 realistic timeframe for getting the draft ready
>>>>>                 for publication ?
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>                 -- Flemming
>>>>>
>>>>>                 On 10/19/20 8:08 PM, Justin Uberti wrote:
>>>>>>                 New draft posted (now with -mmusic name) and
>>>>>>                 waiting for approval.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:40 PM Justin Uberti
>>>>>>                 <juberti@google.com <mailto:juberti@google.com>>
>>>>>>                 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     This fell off my radar, will update the draft
>>>>>>                     shortly though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:13 AM Flemming
>>>>>>                     Andreasen
>>>>>>                     <fandreas=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org
>>>>>>                     <mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                         It looks like we have at least 5 people
>>>>>>                         interested in and willing to contribute
>>>>>>                         to the work. Based on this, the chairs
>>>>>>                         will work with our AD on getting a new
>>>>>>                         milestone added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                         I see that the current draft has expired
>>>>>>                         though - can we get an updated version
>>>>>>                         submitted first ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                         Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                         -- Flemming (as MMUSIC co-chair)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                         On 9/2/20 2:57 PM, Qingsi Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>                         I am interested and willing to
>>>>>>>                         contribute to this document too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Best,
>>>>>>>                         Qingsi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:51 AM Youenn
>>>>>>>                         Fablet
>>>>>>>                         <youenn=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org
>>>>>>>                         <mailto:40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             I am interested and willing to
>>>>>>>                             contribute to the document.
>>>>>>>                             The proposal being implemented by
>>>>>>>                             various parties, having this
>>>>>>>                             document be reviewed and ironed out
>>>>>>>                             as much as possible is valuable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             Thanks,
>>>>>>>                             Y
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             On 2 Sep 2020, at 20:09, Flemming
>>>>>>>>                             Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com
>>>>>>>>                             <mailto:fandreas@cisco.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             So far I've only seen 2 people
>>>>>>>>                             expressing an interest in this
>>>>>>>>                             document.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Is anybody else interested, and if
>>>>>>>>                             so, are you willing to contribute
>>>>>>>>                             and/or review the document ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             -- Flemming (as MMUSIC co-chair)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             On 7/31/20 12:16 AM, Roman Shpount
>>>>>>>>                             wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                             I am strongly in favor of
>>>>>>>>>                             adopting this draft to MMUSIC and
>>>>>>>>>                             getting it completed.
>>>>>>>>>                             _____________
>>>>>>>>>                             Roman Shpount
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:33 PM
>>>>>>>>>                             Justin Uberti
>>>>>>>>>                             <juberti=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org
>>>>>>>>>                             <mailto:40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>
>>>>>>>>>                             wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 With the closure of rtcweb, we
>>>>>>>>>                                 have been advised to find a
>>>>>>>>>                                 new forum for
>>>>>>>>>                                 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates-04
>>>>>>>>>                                 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates-04>,
>>>>>>>>>                                 and MMUSIC seems like the best
>>>>>>>>>                                 home for it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 I believe this document is in
>>>>>>>>>                                 fairly good shape and should
>>>>>>>>>                                 be ready for last call soon.
>>>>>>>>>                                 Any objections to taking it on
>>>>>>>>>                                 in this working group?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                 Justin
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