AW: [Mobopts] RE: [Mipshop] AW: [Mobopts] Presentationslides for "CXTP using GIST"
"Tschofenig, Hannes" <hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com> Thu, 24 November 2005 12:39 UTC
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Subject: AW: [Mobopts] RE: [Mipshop] AW: [Mobopts] Presentationslides for "CXTP using GIST"
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From: "Tschofenig, Hannes" <hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com>
To: "DENG, HUI -HCHBJ" <hdeng@hitachi.cn>, James Kempf <Kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>, Xiaoming Fu <fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de>, mobopts@irtf.org, mipshop@ietf.org
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hi hui, during the meeting we ran out of time. maybe he phrased in such a way that one could interpret it in a wrong way. regarding <draft-housley-aaa-key-mgmt-01.txt>: key derivation and key transport in mobility scenarios is an area of ongoing investigation. ciao hannes > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: mobopts-bounces@irtf.org > [mailto:mobopts-bounces@irtf.org] Im Auftrag von "DENG, HUI -HCHBJ" > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. November 2005 07:07 > An: James Kempf; Tschofenig, Hannes; Xiaoming Fu; > mobopts@irtf.org; mipshop@ietf.org > Cc: Xiaoming Fu > Betreff: [Mobopts] RE: [Mipshop] AW: [Mobopts] > Presentationslides for "CXTP using GIST" > > > As recalled during the mobopts session in Vancouver, > Xiaoming said that one of their motivation is to solve this issue? > > -Hui > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Kempf [mailto:Kempf@docomolabs-usa.com] > > Sent: 2005å¹´11æ23æ¥ 1:04 > > To: Tschofenig, Hannes; DENG, HUI -HCHBJ; Xiaoming Fu; > > mobopts@irtf.org; mipshop@ietf.org > > Cc: Xiaoming Fu > > Subject: Re: [Mipshop] AW: [Mobopts] Presentation slides for > > "CXTP using GIST" > > > > > > IPsec context is pretty much out, unless what is exchanged > > does not involve > > the shared key. So is any AAA context that involves a shared > > key. Please see > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-housley-aaa-key-mgmt > > -01.txt for a > > discussion of why propagating shared keys in this manner is > > not secure. The > > draft talks specifically about AAA-derived keys, but could > as well be > > applied to IPsec derived keys. > > > > jak > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tschofenig, Hannes" <hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com> > > To: "DENG, HUI -HCHBJ" <hdeng@hitachi.cn>; "Xiaoming Fu" > > <fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de>; <mobopts@irtf.org>; <mipshop@ietf.org> > > Cc: "Xiaoming Fu" <fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de> > > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 5:23 AM > > Subject: [Mipshop] AW: [Mobopts] Presentation slides for > > "CXTP using GIST" > > > > > > > hi hui > > > > > > there are two issues to discuss: > > > > > > a) which security mechanisms you use for protection of the context > > > transfer between the old ar and the new ar. > > > > > > b) which context you transfer between these devices. > > > > > > i could not remember xiaoming and john proposing to > > transfer ipsec sas > > > as > > > part of (b). if you would like to transfer ipsec sas then > the past > > > investigations in, for example, > > <draft-hk-seamoby-ct-ipsec-00.txt> or > > > <draft-gopal-seamoby-ipsecctxt-issues-01.txt> might be > > worth taking a > > > look. > > > > > > ciao > > > hannes > > > > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > >> Von: mobopts-bounces@irtf.org > [mailto:mobopts-bounces@irtf.org] Im > > >> Auftrag von DENG, HUI -HCHBJ > > >> Gesendet: Montag, 21. November 2005 14:05 > > >> An: Xiaoming Fu; mobopts@irtf.org; mipshop@ietf.org > > >> Cc: John Loughney; Xiaoming Fu > > >> Betreff: RE: [Mobopts] Presentation slides for "CXTP using GIST" > > >> > > >> Hi, Xiaoming > > >> > > >> I am still wondering how could you handle IPsec SA transfer, > > >> expecially initialize vector and anti-replay window. > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> -Hui > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Xiaoming Fu [mailto:fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de] > > >> Sent: 2005-11-20 (æææ¥) 3:10 > > >> To: mobopts@irtf.org; mipshop@ietf.org > > >> Cc: John Loughney; Xiaoming Fu > > >> Subject: [Mobopts] Presentation slides for "CXTP using GIST" > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> Due to time limitation, mostly the Q&As in response to > > >> some reviewers' > > >> comments were discussed in the MOBOPTS RG meeting. For anyone > > >> interested in this draft, the slides are available in the > > following > > >> link: > > >> > > >> http://user.informatik.uni-goettingen.de/~fu/temp/cxtpgist/CXT > > > PusingGIST_IETF64.ppt > > >> > > >> Please drop me/us a message if you think it may be > > >> useful, or any > > >> (additional) comments/suggestions you might have. > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> Xiaoming > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mobopts mailing list > > >> Mobopts@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts > > >> > > >> +zy'í²+jwbÆ!'Ú&y'~'^ØÝz-yÖ§Úºh,v!zz+vbéV+-jGzí¡·Þ¶Ê^{^×"'^jǧ > > >> Ø^zeéV'jhÈu×¥z×¢*.&^̬é¢g^+az~׫!Þm觵yr*bz{r鮲)bé > > Z+jZr+v+{^-^Ö)^Zuz}+$yh > > >> Þ· > > >> +yÞ²'&+r~Ú'(z0'!(!}y~b > > >> > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mipshop mailing list > > > Mipshop@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mipshop > > > > > > > > > > Disclaimer: > The contents of this e-mail, and its attachments, if any, are > confidential and may be protected > by law against any unauthorized use. 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