[Mobopts] RE: +AFs-Mipshop+AF0- AW: +AFs-Mobopts+AF0- Presentation slides for +ACI-CXTP using GIST+ACI-

"+ACI-DENG, HUI -HCHBJ+ACI-" <hdeng@hitachi.cn> Wed, 23 November 2005 06:07 UTC

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To: James Kempf <Kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>, "+ACI-Tschofenig, Hannes+ACI-" <hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com>, Xiaoming Fu <fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de>, mobopts@irtf.org, mipshop@ietf.org
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Cc: Xiaoming Fu <fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de>
Subject: [Mobopts] RE: +AFs-Mipshop+AF0- AW: +AFs-Mobopts+AF0- Presentation slides for +ACI-CXTP using GIST+ACI-
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As recalled during the mobopts session in Vancouver,
Xiaoming said that one of their motivation is to solve this issue?

-Hui

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Kempf [mailto:Kempf@docomolabs-usa.com] 
> Sent: 2005年11月23日 1:04
> To: Tschofenig, Hannes; DENG, HUI -HCHBJ; Xiaoming Fu; 
> mobopts@irtf.org; mipshop@ietf.org
> Cc: Xiaoming Fu
> Subject: Re: [Mipshop] AW: [Mobopts] Presentation slides for 
> "CXTP using GIST"
> 
> 
> IPsec context is pretty much out, unless what is exchanged 
> does not involve 
> the shared key. So is any AAA context that involves a shared 
> key. Please see 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-housley-aaa-key-mgmt
> -01.txt for a 
> discussion of why propagating shared keys in this manner is 
> not secure. The 
> draft talks specifically about AAA-derived keys, but could as well be 
> applied to IPsec derived keys.
> 
>             jak
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tschofenig, Hannes" <hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com>
> To: "DENG, HUI -HCHBJ" <hdeng@hitachi.cn>; "Xiaoming Fu" 
> <fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de>; <mobopts@irtf.org>; <mipshop@ietf.org>
> Cc: "Xiaoming Fu" <fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de>
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 5:23 AM
> Subject: [Mipshop] AW: [Mobopts] Presentation slides for 
> "CXTP using GIST"
> 
> 
> > hi hui
> >
> > there are two issues to discuss:
> >
> > a) which security mechanisms you use for protection of the context
> > transfer between the old ar and the new ar.
> >
> > b) which context you transfer between these devices.
> >
> > i could not remember xiaoming and john proposing to 
> transfer ipsec sas 
> > as
> > part of (b). if you would like to transfer ipsec sas then the past 
> > investigations in, for example, 
> <draft-hk-seamoby-ct-ipsec-00.txt> or 
> > <draft-gopal-seamoby-ipsecctxt-issues-01.txt> might be 
> worth taking a 
> > look.
> >
> > ciao
> > hannes
> >
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: mobopts-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:mobopts-bounces@irtf.org] Im 
> >> Auftrag von DENG, HUI -HCHBJ
> >> Gesendet: Montag, 21. November 2005 14:05
> >> An: Xiaoming Fu; mobopts@irtf.org; mipshop@ietf.org
> >> Cc: John Loughney; Xiaoming Fu
> >> Betreff: RE: [Mobopts] Presentation slides for "CXTP using GIST"
> >>
> >> Hi, Xiaoming
> >>
> >> I am still wondering how could you handle IPsec SA transfer, 
> >> expecially initialize vector and anti-replay window.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> -Hui
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Xiaoming Fu [mailto:fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de]
> >> Sent: 2005-11-20 (星期日) 3:10
> >> To: mobopts@irtf.org; mipshop@ietf.org
> >> Cc: John Loughney; Xiaoming Fu
> >> Subject: [Mobopts] Presentation slides for "CXTP using GIST"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Due to time limitation, mostly the Q&As in response to
> >> some reviewers'
> >> comments were discussed in the MOBOPTS RG meeting. For anyone 
> >> interested in this draft, the slides are available in the 
> following 
> >> link:
> >>
> >> http://user.informatik.uni-goettingen.de/~fu/temp/cxtpgist/CXT
> > PusingGIST_IETF64.ppt
> >>
> >> Please drop me/us a message if you think it may be
> >> useful, or any
> >> (additional) comments/suggestions you might have.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Xiaoming
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >
> 
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