[Mod-discuss] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-10 (Ends 2025-09-08)

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On 29/08/2025 22:41, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> The core problem is tech companies colluding...

I think you're mistaken there. ISTM the core reason for this
WG is that standards of what's acceptable in discourse have
changed over the decades. The sources of that include both
corporate and not, e.g. I've heard directly from many NGO
participants in the IETF that they dislike how we interact
and would like better moderation.

Now, I'm skeptical of a lot of that, but not all, and it's
true we allow people to be disruptive and either do nothing
much (as you noted) or have go ballistic and do a PR-action
or similar. I see this WG's job as trying to (setup a team
to) fix that.

Separately, I'm also somewhat skeptical because part of the
source of this stuff is corporate HR telling people how to
behave. The 180 degree diversity handbrake turns we've seen
from many of those makes me feel happy with that aspect of
my skepticiam:-)

Cheers,
S.