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[Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Thu, 11 September 2025 20:44 UTC

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Lisa Dusseault wrote on 11/09/2025 17:30:
> I am seeing fair agreement about how many people we'd like to see on the 
> mod team, but what I'm having trouble discerning in the answers what 
> folks think about how much we should constrain the mod team size in the 
> draft.  Where should "5 team members" be on the spectrum of proposal --> 
> recommendation --> requirement.

Not sure the IETF can compel 5 brave people to act as moderators. And if 
5 don't volunteer, what then?  I'd suggest a recommendation, e.g

"The moderator team should consist of no fewer than five individuals."

nit: "fewer" for countable units.

Nick

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