[Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Wed, 10 September 2025 18:14 UTC
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--On Wednesday, September 10, 2025 17:13 +0100 Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote: > I am not entirely sure we can get three, fwiw. Eliot, I don't think I'm ready to advocate, much less try to insist, that we write this into the document but, if we can't get five, or even three, people who not only volunteer but have the right set of motives, skills, etc. (see forthcoming note and some of my earlier ones), I think it should be grounds for pulling the plug on this model and going back to the drawing board. Indeed, if we are very uncertain that it is possible to get enough people on the moderation team to make the other specifications of the document feasible, maybe we should be trying to advance the document as Experimental, with the IESG (or some other mechanism) required to determine the experiment was unsuccessful and figure out whether going back to a (probably rechartered) WG or deciding to leave the status quo alone for a few years being the next decision. What I think would be really unfortunate and scary for the IETF would be to move ahead with something that clearly wasn't working --with inability to get even three good volunteers being about as clear as one could get-- simply because this WG put in all of these months of arguing and then published a BCP which has to be followed because it is there, working or not. john
- [Mod-discuss] one last issue from my side Eliot Lear
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Brian E Carpenter
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side John C Klensin
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Eliot Lear
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Chris Box
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Nick Hilliard
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Lisa Dusseault
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Edward Lemon
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Rob Sayre
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Michael De Roover
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Michael De Roover
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Brian E Carpenter
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side Nick Hilliard
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side John C Klensin
- [Mod-discuss] Re: one last issue from my side John C Klensin