Re: [Mops] Confirming adoption consensus Re: draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons

["Leslie Daigle" <[e-mail]>]

Spencer,

One thing I’ve been trying to find out is:  how to tie a git repo to 
the IETF.  Looking at the CELLAR example, it seems like one just makes 
the assertion that it is the WG git repo?  And, it seems odd that there 
are no visible members, let alone owner, of the git repo?

Apologies if I’m missing the obvious.

Leslie.

On 3 Feb 2020, at 21:27, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:

> Hi, Kyle,
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:01 PM Kyle Rose <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> I'll look into the right way to set this up. I'm not sure that the 
>> QUIC
>> single-repo model makes sense here, but one or more official MOPS 
>> repos for
>> adopted docs seems like a good idea.
>>
>
> I'm certainly not the genius of Github at IETF, but I'd tend to agree 
> - the
> MOPS documents aren't likely to have the same tight linkages and
> intersecting participant lists that the QUIC core protocol 
> specifications
> do. I'm recently co-chair of CELLAR, and that working group uses 4 
> repos
> (see https://github.com/cellar-wg for details).
>
> Best,
>
> Spencer
>
>
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 1:17 PM Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Leslie,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:34 AM Leslie Daigle 
>>> <[e-mail]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That’s a fair question.
>>>>
>>>> IMO, if people are generally interested in using GitHub for docs in 
>>>> this
>>>> WG, we should. Kyle?
>>>>
>>>> There seems to be some leaning that way, given Jake & Ali’s use 
>>>> so far,
>>>> but I, at least, would like to hear from others to know whether the
>>>> interest in using GitHub for documents extends beyond the authors 
>>>> of that
>>>> particular document?
>>>>
>>> I certainly am (I have a PR waiting for that particular document 
>>> now, but
>>> I don't know why we would not want to use Github for other docs).
>>>
>>> I'd also note that Ali has at least a few issues in Jake's 
>>> repository
>>> now, and I've been waiting to see if the repository would change 
>>> upon
>>> adoption before adding issues of my own.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Spencer
>>>
>>>> Leslie.
>>>>
>>>> On 30 Jan 2020, at 16:51, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since we seem to be getting "support" e-mail and the 31st is 
>>>> tomorrow,
>>>> is it too early to ask if the working group will have its own 
>>>> repository
>>>> for working group drafts?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Spencer
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 3:25 PM Matt Stock <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I support the adoption of the draft.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:45 PM Leslie Daigle 
>>>>> <[e-mail]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Jake, for putting together the follow ups from the IETF 
>>>>>> 106
>>>>>> MOPS meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m happy to see others have already started chiming in with 
>>>>>> comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We had pretty strong consensus in the room to take this on as a 
>>>>>> WG
>>>>>> item, and I’m happy to formally follow that up on the list here 
>>>>>> and now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone *objects* to adoption of the document (
>>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jholland-mops-taxonomy-01), 
>>>>>> please
>>>>>> share your objection now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there is no (unresolved) objection by the end of January 31, 
>>>>>> 2020,
>>>>>> we will adopt this document as draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons 
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Leslie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 Jan 2020, at 17:26, Holland, Jake wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mops,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm finally writing to follow up on draft-jholland-mops-taxonomy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did a quick review of the video from the IETF 106 mops meeting:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_k340xT2jM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I captured the comments I heard in a new notes section and
>>>>>> updated the draft to -01, plus a few very minor editing tweaks.
>>>>>> I was going to rename it to draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons, but
>>>>>> I thought I'd wait until after the adoption call, to make sure 
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> confirmed on-list. (I think the data tracker is easier to use 
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> you change names less often...)
>>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jholland-mops-taxonomy-01
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also wanted to say thanks to the folks who volunteered to 
>>>>>> co-author
>>>>>> this draft. You 3 are BCC'd, and your contributions are very 
>>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also wanted to ask whether there's any particular topics you'll 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> working on, so we don't get multiple people writing to the same 
>>>>>> points?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regardless, for the moment the current version is here and I'm
>>>>>> accepting pull requests :) :
>>>>>> https://github.com/GrumpyOldTroll/ietf-mops-drafts
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming the adoption call starts soon and is successful, we 
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>> should move to a WG-owned repo, but that's where it is for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>>>> Jake
>>>>>>
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