Re: [Moq] Flow to join 15 seconds before live

Alex Giladi <alex.giladi@gmail.com> Fri, 29 March 2024 15:01 UTC

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From: Alex Giladi <alex.giladi@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:00:56 -0600
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Subject: Re: [Moq] Flow to join 15 seconds before live
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In this use case, why not keep a very short buffer on a relay, and do
timeshifted using regular HAS?

On Fri, Mar 29, 2024, 08:41 Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca> wrote:

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> > On Mar 27, 2024, at 3:24 PM, Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > As an individual, what I don't like about the freeze flag is that it
> muddies the distinction between SUBSCRIBE (just forward what comes from the
> publisher) and FETCH (if it's not cached, go get it from the publisher). A
> frozen SUBSCRIBE is a FETCH for future groups, which to me defeats the
> whole point of separating FETCH and SUBSCRIBE.
>
> I agree it should not be that. I viewed it as simply a way to tell the
> relay to pre warm the cache and set up the flow as it the client was
> subscribed not bother to send the objects to the client.  Using it as way
> to get the live edge may be the wrong thing todo and it make be that
> something with semantics more like I suspect Will was imaging with
> trackinfo would also be needed.
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