[mpls] Re: 答复: Working Group Adoption Poll for draft-li-mpls-mna-nrp-selector

[Joel Halpern <[e-mail]>]

To be clear, I misread and misconstrued Aijun's email.  My apologies to 
Aijun.

To avoid further mistakes, I am taking a few days before commenting 
further on the NRP draft.

Yours,

Joel

On 4/29/2025 5:15 AM, Loa Andersson wrote:
> Aijun, Tianran, and Joel,
>
> I'm not fully up to speed on NRP, and might have missed something.
>
> But I understand that there are issues with this WGAP
>
> - there are other drafts about witch it has been claimed that they 
> addresses the same or similar problems
>
> - since not all of these draft try fit NRP into MNA, but specify 
> independent solutions, which makes it an open issue if we want an MNA 
> approach for this problem.
>
> Aijun, does not suggest NOT adopting the draft, but point at some 
> issues that should be cleared up before adoption.
>
> /Loa
>
> Den 29/04/2025 kl. 11:20, skrev Tianran Zhou:
>> Hi Joel,
>>
>> I think Aijun’s reply is to the cfa of 
>>  draft-li-mpls-mna-nrp-selector, not the lc.
>>
>> Tianran
>>
>> *发件人:*Joel Halpern <[e-mail]>
>> *发送时间:*2025年4月29日10:38
>> *收件人:*Aijun Wang <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
>> *主题:*[mpls] Re: 答复: Working Group Adoption Poll for draft-li-mpls- 
>> mna-nrp-selector
>>
>> Aijun, I posted a point-by-point technical rebuttl of the issues that 
>> were raised.  Of those responses, there was some discussion that did 
>> not actual prove there were issues for two of the points.  For the 
>> other rebuttals, there was no response.  As far as I can tell, there 
>> is no obstacle to the chairs calling for a WG last call.
>>
>> Now, having said that, I expect that issues will be raised if such a 
>> last call takes place.  And those issues will be discussed.  And the 
>> chairs will decide if the results of that discussion leads to a 
>> successful or unsuccessful last call. That is in fact the purpose of 
>> a last call.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> On 4/28/2025 10:30 PM, Aijun Wang wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     Given the intense discussions of this adoption call, the dispution
>>     of ISD/PSD, the ambiguous future of MNA based application, the
>>     transition of new MPLS WG etc, , I suggest to postpone the adoption
>>     call of this document.
>>
>>     The WG should provide the community, the operator the unified
>>     solution, not instead of some distinctive, proprietary solutions.
>>
>>     Some comprises should be coordinated.
>>
>>     PS.  I don’t like  John E. Drake’s tedious, “argument by emphatic
>>     assertion” (quote from his description to other persons).
>>
>>            Please state out your technical argument points once when you
>>     want to argue with others, or else, please stay in quiet and just
>>     listen to other experts’discussions.
>>
>>     Best Regards
>>
>>     Aijun Wang
>>
>>     China Telecom
>>
>>     *发件人:*[e-mail]
>>     <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>     [mailto:[e-mail]
>>     <mailto:[e-mail]>] *代表 *[e-mail]
>>     <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>     *发送时间:*2025年4月15日16:30
>>     *收件人:*[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>     *抄送:*[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>; draft-li-
>>     [e-mail] <mailto:draft-li-mpls-mna-nrp-
>>     [e-mail]>
>>     *主题:*[mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll for draft-li-mpls-mna-nrp-
>>     selector
>>
>>     Dear WG,
>>
>>     This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-li-mpls-mna-nrp-
>>     selector as a MPLS working group document.
>>
>>     Please send your comments (support/not support) to the MPLS working
>>     group mailing list ([e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>).
>>
>>     Please give a technical motivation for your support/not support,
>>     especially if you think that the document
>>
>>     should not be adopted as a working group document.
>>
>>     There are three IPR disclosures against this document.
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-li-
>>     mpls-mna-nrp-selector <https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?
>>     submit=draft&id=draft-li-mpls-mna-nrp-selector>
>>
>>     All the authors/contributors have stated on the MPLS WG mailing list
>>     that they are unaware of any
>>
>>     undisclosed IPR that relates to this document.
>>
>>     This working group adoption poll ends April 29th, 2025.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Nic (as MPLS WG Co-chair)
>>
>>
>>
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