Re: [mpls] WG Last Call and IPR Poll for for draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-05

tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Thu, 10 November 2022 12:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] WG Last Call and IPR Poll for for draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-05
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From: Shraddha Hegde <shraddha@juniper.net>
Sent: 04 November 2022 02:49

Tom,

You said you have further comments on the draft.
Could you pls take a look at the updated draft and let me know?

<tp>
I think that there is a lot wrong in the terminology and in the grammar so I have to work harder to extract the meaning and there is a history in this WG of producing documents that are open to misinterpretation.

I wonder what tool you are using, if any.  A period at the end of the sentence should be followed by two spaces which is the sort of thing tools get right.  Here that is often the case but is also not the case in many places.

s.5 The quote characters are not ASCII and display as nonsense.  Other sections are ok.

TBD appears in six places and is ambiguous.

s.5.1 Updates 8287 and I cannot make sense of what the revised procedure should be.  I see this as a serious failing even if other reviewers found a meaning that made sense to them, but perhaps not the same meaning.

Capitalisation is inconsistent.  'As' for 'AS'

You cite RFC5065 but do not use the terminology therein.  Member ASN  does not appear in it and I think where you use it is wrong - you are referring to a Member-AS and not the Number therof

s.1 talks of multiple AS and then of two AS and then a diagram with three AS.  Inconsistent.

/validate if/validate that/

/Taget/Target/

/initaited/initiated/

The procedures /is/are/ .. not very well defined.
Needs a reference to where they are not well defined if any.

/carried the global AS/carries the global AS Number/
Incidentally RFC7705 does not talk of global AS.

s.4.1 /Type and length/Type and Length/

'In case of PeerAdj SID Local interface address corresponding to the  PeerAdj SID '
Could do with punctuation

/apecified/specified/

/load-balances/ load balances/

Tom Petch

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Subject: Re: [mpls] WG Last Call and IPR Poll for for draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-05

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Hi Tom,

Thanks for the review and comments.
I have added the missing references
A section of the text was mistakenly marked as figure which I have fixed now.
I have posted a -06 version.

Let me know if you have any further comments.

BTW, authors felt "forgery" is too harsh a word for this particular mistake in the draft.

Rgds
Shraddha


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From: mpls <mpls-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com>
Sent: 27 September 2022 15:41

Dear WG,

This email starts a two-week working group last call for draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-05 [1]

<tp>

This I-D seems seriously Not Ready.

I see [RFC5065] [RFC4271] [RFC6286] and such like in the text but turning to the I-D references, nothing like them.  This has a flavour of forgery, an I-D  that has not been produced in the manner expected in the IETF.

As such, Not Ready.

I have more technical comments for when it looks more like an IETF I-D.

Tom Petch

Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org<mailto:mpls@ietf.org>).
If necessary, comments may be sent unidirectional to the wg chairs.

This poll runs until the 12th October 2022

We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to this document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
If you are listed as an author or a contributor of this document, please respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant undisclosed IPR. The document won't progress without answers from all the authors and contributors.
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Thank you,
Tarek (for the MPLS WG co-chairs)

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