Re: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (2533)
Huub van Helvoort <hhelvoort@chello.nl> Fri, 08 October 2010 08:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (2533)
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Hello Stweard, You replied: > Speaking as an author, my view is that the original text is correct, and > the correction is not needed. As an author you are are an expert in this topic. However, for the less experienced you knowledge, i.e.: > It's a fundamental of the IP protocol suite (which includes MPLS) > that the parser knows what protocol to expect from the previous > header or if there is no previous header from an identifier in > the lower layer. may not be that obvious. So adding this explanation or the text proposed by Ben: > If a section layer does not support multiplexing then it has > an implicit means of identifying the payload by the interface > over which the payload arrived. would improve the readability of the document. Regards, Huub. > On 30/09/2010 01:18, Benjamin Niven-Jenkins wrote: >> While the intent of reported errata is technically correct I'm >> somewhat torn between whether I think it should be rejected, or >> whether I don't care. >> >> My thinking is: >> >> The errata is technically correct because a corner case does exist >> where a section layer that doesn't support higher layer protocol >> multiplexing can still be used to support MPLS-TP in some scenarios. >> >> I don't like the proposed replacement text because the original text >> is placing a requirement on the section layer technology and I think >> it is reasonable to say "if you want your section layer to work with >> MPLS-TP it MUST do/support X", however I don't think it's reasonable >> to say "if you want your section layer to work with MPLS-TP it MAY >> have to do X" (which is essentially the change the proposed text >> makes) because it leaves it unclear as to what is actually required >> from the section layer which practically reduces to section layers >> having to support X anyway so it becomes a (implicit) MUST in any case. >> >> Furthermore the original text only states that a section layer MUST >> have a means of identifying the type of payload. If a section layer >> does not support multiplexing then it has an implicit means of >> identifying the payload by the interface over which the payload >> arrived and therefore it meets the requirement as stated by the >> original text. >> >> Ben >> >> >> On 29 Sep 2010, at 18:39, RFC Errata System wrote: >> >>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5960, >>> "MPLS Transport Profile Data Plane Architecture". >>> >>> -------------------------------------- >>> You may review the report below and at: >>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5960&eid=2533 >>> >>> -------------------------------------- >>> Type: Technical >>> Reported by: Italo Busi<italo.busi@alcatel-lucent.com> >>> >>> Section: 3.2 >>> >>> Original Text >>> ------------- >>> A section MUST provide a means of identifying the type of payload it >>> carries. >>> >>> Corrected Text >>> -------------- >>> A section MAY be required to provide a mechanism for multiplexing MPLS >>> with other protocols. >>> >>> >>> Notes >>> ----- >>> This change is intended to clarify that providing a multiplexing >>> capability for a section layer is optional. >>> >>> See https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/916/ >>> >>> Instructions: >>> ------------- >>> This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >>> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) >>> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >>> >>> -------------------------------------- >>> RFC5960 (draft-ietf-mpls-tp-data-plane-04) >>> -------------------------------------- >>> Title : MPLS Transport Profile Data Plane Architecture >>> Publication Date : August 2010 >>> Author(s) : D. Frost, Ed., S. Bryant, Ed., M. Bocci, Ed. >>> Category : PROPOSED STANDARD >>> Source : Multiprotocol Label Switching >>> Area : Routing >>> Stream : IETF >>> Verifying Party : IESG >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpls mailing list >>> mpls@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> > > -- ================================================================ http://www.van-helvoort.eu/ ================================================================ Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else...
- [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (2533) RFC Errata System
- Re: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (2… Benjamin Niven-Jenkins
- [mpls] R: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (25… BUSI, ITALO (ITALO)
- Re: [mpls] R: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960… Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [mpls] R: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [mpls] R: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (2… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (2… Ross Callon
- Re: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (2… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (2… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (2… John E Drake
- Re: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (2… Trowbridge, Stephen J (Steve)
- [mpls] R: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5960 (25… BUSI, ITALO (ITALO)