Re: [mpls] [AHMPLS-TP] R: Working group last call ondraft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection

Dear Han Li,
Thanks for your introduction. 
Obviously it is not possible to refer or discuss something that has not been posted or presented….
Best regards,
Nurit

From: ext Larry [mailto:larryli888@yahoo.com.cn] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:59 AM
To: D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo; huubatwork@gmail.com; Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
Cc: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection@tools.ietf.org
Subject: RE: [mpls] [AHMPLS-TP] R: Working group last call ondraft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection

Dear Nurit:

       China Mobile presented several contributions about ring protection in last ITU-T SG15 plenary meeting. We compared the complexity and resources requirement (labels and OAM sessions) of different schemes. After discussion, we summerized the requirements in the liason to IETF. Thank you!

Best regards,

                             Han Li

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China Mobile Research Institute
32 Xuanwumen West Street, Xicheng District, Beijing 100053, China 
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MOBILE: 13501093385 
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--- 12年10月2日，周二, Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) <nurit.sprecher@nsn.com> 写道：

发件人: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) <nurit.sprecher@nsn.com>
主题: RE: [mpls] [AHMPLS-TP] R: Working group last call ondraft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection
收件人: "ext Larry" <larryli888@yahoo.com.cn>, "D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo" <alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it>, huubatwork@gmail.com
抄送: mpls@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, "MPLS-TP ad hoc team" <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int>, draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection@tools.ietf.org
日期: 2012年10月2日,周二,下午10:50
Dear Han Li,
Thanks for your comment. 
·         Can you please explain why do you think there are risks that protection switch time exceeds 50ms ("from the moment of fault detection in a         network with a 16-node ring with less than 1200 km of fiber" as required in RFC 5654)? What in the proposed solution make you think there are risks? 
·         Can you please indicate why do you think the configuration is too complex and why it requires too many labels and OAM sessions...and how do you think this could be better optimized? 
In order to refer to this as a LC comment, the technical arguments should be presented and elaborated. 
Thanks and best regards,
Nurit

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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:41 PM
To: D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo; huubatwork@gmail.com
Cc: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection@tools.ietf.org
Subject: Re: [mpls] [AHMPLS-TP] R: Working group last call ondraft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection

not support!
It doesn't satisfy some requirements of the operators. The configuration is too complex and needs too many labels and OAM sessions. There are risks that protection switch time exceed 50ms.

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Han Li, Ph.D 
China Mobile Research Institute
32 Xuanwumen West Street, Xicheng District, Beijing 100053, China 
Fax: +86 10 63135159 
MOBILE: 13501093385 
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--- 12年10月2日，周二, Huub van Helvoort <huubatwork@gmail.com> 写道：

> 发件人: Huub van Helvoort <huubatwork@gmail.com>
> 主题: Re: [mpls] [AHMPLS-TP] R: Working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection
> 收件人: "D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo" <alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it>
> 抄送: "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" <mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org>, "MPLS-TP ad hoc team" <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int>, "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection@tools.ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection@tools.ietf.org>
> 日期: 2012年10月2日,周二,下午5:02
> Do not support.
> 
> Same reasons as mentioned below.
> 
> Regards, Huub.
> 
> On 01-10-12 14:27, D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo wrote:
> > Do not support
> >
> > According to the optimization criteria for ring
> protection specified in Section 2.5.6.1 in RFC5654, the
> MPLS-TP ring protection should be optimized for
> simplification of the ring operation and the resources
> consumption around the ring. It is not the case of the
> proposed solution.
> > It is actually simply an applicability statement of a
> linear protection mechanism but it cannot be consider a
> solution that addresses the requirements for protection of
> ring topologies for Multi-Protocol Label Switching Transport
> Profile (MPLS-TP) as specified in RFC5654.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alessandro
> >
> >
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> > Da: mpls-bounces@ietf.org
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> Per conto di Hejia
> > Inviato: sabato 29 settembre 2012 12:53
> > A: Loa Andersson
> > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org;
> MPLS-TP ad hoc team; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection@tools.ietf.org
> > Oggetto: Re: [mpls] Working group last call on
> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection
> >
> > Do not support.
> >
> > Based on the analysis in Section 2.4 of
> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection-02, the ring protection
> scheme using SPME as described, either wrapping or steering,
> does have deficiencies, which IMHO should be better
> reconsidered and solved if possible.
> >
> >
> > B.R.
> > Jia
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> 代表 Loa Andersson
> > 发送时间: 2012年9月19日 18:49
> > 抄送: mpls@ietf.org;
> MPLS-TP ad hoc team; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection@tools.ietf.org;
> mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> > 主题: [mpls] Working group last call on
> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection
> >
> > Working Group,
> >
> > this is to start a two week working group last call on
> > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection-02-txt.
> >
> > Please note that there are two IPR disclosures # 1462
> and  # 1872
> > related to this document.
> >
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> > The working group last call ends October 3, 2012.
> >
> > /Loa
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