Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-rhd-mpls-tp-psc-priority
Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Wed, 21 August 2013 10:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-rhd-mpls-tp-psc-priority
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Jeong-dong, I think this is OK - I'll ask the mpls-rt reviewers to be explicit about which version of the draft they reviewed. /Loa On 2013-08-21 11:53, Ryoo, Jeong-dong wrote: > Loa, > After uploading a new version, I realized that I was not supposed to > update the document during the MPLS-RT review period. > Since this particular draft was supposed to expire tomorrow, I needed to > upload a new version and just happend to incorporate the comments from > Yaacov. Sorry about this. > Best regards, > Jeong-dong > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From : *"Ryoo, Jeong-dong" <ryoo@etri.re.kr> > *Sent : *2013-08-21 18:01:03 ( +09:00 ) > *To : *Yaacov Weingarten <wyaacov@gmail.com>, loa@pi.nu <loa@pi.nu>, > mpls@ietf.org <mpls@ietf.org>, > draft-rhd-mpls-tp-psc-priority@tools.ietf.org > <draft-rhd-mpls-tp-psc-priority@tools.ietf.org>, > mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org <mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org>, > martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com <martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com> > *Cc : * > *Subject : *회신: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-rhd-mpls-tp-psc-priority > > > Yaacov, thank you for providing the comments. > > I discussed your comments with the other co-authors of this draft, and > the revised draft that has been uploaded just a few minutes ago contains > the updates reflecting your comments. > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rhd-mpls-tp-psc-priority-01.txt > > The followings are the resolution of the comments, and incorporated in > the new draft: > > Comment 1: All the LSs have been removed from the references, and any > necessary materials have been transferred into the draft. > > Comment 2: The particular example related to the priority level of Clear > SF is moved from the LS to the draft. The motivation of Freeze has been > explained in the context of priority modification. > > Comment 3: This comment was not for the authors of this draft. > > Comment 4: I am not sure if you are aware of the result of discussions > in the last IETF meeting. There was a general agreement on the need of a > new draft to provide a method to integrate all the drafts into PSC in a > backward compatible manner and to provide the state machine description > when all the features are enabled to satisfy the ITU-T transport > requirements. This new draft is now being prepared. > > If there is any misunderstanding on your comments or any question on the > updates, please let me know. > > I appreciate your help and support on this draft. > > Best regards, > > Jeong-dong > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From : *"Yaacov Weingarten" <wyaacov@gmail.com> > *Sent : *2013-08-16 04:40:34 ( +09:00 ) > *To : *loa@pi.nu <loa@pi.nu>, mpls@ietf.org <mpls@ietf.org>, > draft-rhd-mpls-tp-psc-priority@tools.ietf.org > <draft-rhd-mpls-tp-psc-priority@tools.ietf.org>, > mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org <mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org>, > martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com <martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com> > *Cc : * > *Subject : *[mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-rhd-mpls-tp-psc-priority > > Hi, > I was requested to conduct an initial review of > draft-rhd-mpls-tp-psc-priority-01 as part of the effort to determine if > the draft is suited for a WG adoption poll. I have read the draft and > have the following notes: > 1. I find it rather disconcerting that the draft is referencing a LS > that was received from the ITU. While I am sure that the points rasied > in the LS as very well thought out and pertinent, I cannot see that the > LS should be considered a "standards document" that could be referenced > by a future RFC. At best, the LS could be considered a "contribution" at > an ITU meeting, and I do not believe that an ITU document would > reference a contribution! I therefore think that the authors should > transfer into the draft whatever information they feel is appropriate > from said LS. > 2. In general, the draft is addressing itself to two topics regarding > RFC6378, > a. Change of relative priority between SF-P and FS - the suggestion is > essentially to rollback the relevant changes that were made to the RFC > during the final IESG review to the version previous to that review. > b. Change of relative priority between ClearSF and SF/SD. This is based > on a particular use-case that is mentioned in the referenced LS, and > that I suggested be explicitly explained in the draft. > c. Introduce (in an appendix) the use of a Freeze command. Not sure what > the motivation for this in this context is. > In my opinion, all three of the points are valid for work by the WG and > should be fully discussed in the WG prior to publication of the draft - > but could be discussed as part of a WG draft. > 3. The format of the draft is also rather interesting - it seems to be > presenting an errata note to RFC6378 rather than describing the desired > behavior. I leave it to the WG Chairs to decide what is the best format > for the draft moving forward. > 4. One other note regarding this draft in the context of several other > drafts that are proposing changes to the PSC protocol for MPLS-TP Linear > Protection. I think that some of these should be combined into a more > robust proposal for the sake of the implementers. Otherwise, there may > be a need for a future "reader's guide" for an implementer to figure out > what is in PSC and what is no longer there! > Bottom line - I think that this draft presents valid points, it should > be corrected to not reference the ITU LS prior to acceptance as a WG > draft. And the WG should strongly consider consolidating this work with > some of the other drafts to make a more complete and consistent > definition of PSC available. > Hope this helps, > > -- > Thanx and BR, > yaacov > > /Still looking for new opportunity/ -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64
- [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-rhd-mpls-tp-psc-pr… Yaacov Weingarten
- [mpls] 회신: MPLS-RT review of draft-rhd-mpls-tp-ps… 류정동
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-rhd-mpls-tp-ps… Ryoo, Jeong-dong
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-rhd-mpls-tp-ps… Loa Andersson