Re: [mpls] Two new drafts on (micro-)BFD over MC-LAG interfaces

Gregory Mirsky <gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com> Tue, 12 April 2016 22:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] Two new drafts on (micro-)BFD over MC-LAG interfaces
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Hi Jeff,

thank you for adding more details to the discussions before RFC 7130. We have submitted another draft that proposes to use MPLS encapsulation of BFD control packets over MC-LAG interfaces. Would greatly appreciate reviews, questions and comments on draft-tanmir-rtgwg-bfd-mc-lag-mpls<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tanmir-rtgwg-bfd-mc-lag-mpls-00>00>.



                Regards,

                                Greg



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Subject: Re: Two new drafts on (micro-)BFD over MC-LAG interfaces



Greg,



This is more of a general comment on discussions from the development from RFC 7130 than any specific comment on your draft.



On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 11:43:18AM -0700, Greg Mirsky wrote:

> yes, link local multicast may be used in MC-LAG scenario. The draft

> states that it MAY be used while the broadcast has SHOULD normative.

> But we are all open to the discussion.



During our discussions across multiple vendors, including some hardware vendors, it was determined that attempts to exercise the layer 3 mechanisms would vary significantly across implementations depending on how packets were encapsulated.  Multicast in particular provided some problematic issues for us beyond the initial bootstrapping phase of LAG for BFD wherein we might not have ARP completed.



My recommendation is to proceed with your drafts with similar caution.  Try to stay as true to pure IP as possible to best insure the L3 data paths are exercised across implementations from various vendors.



-- Jeff (speaking as an individual contributor)