Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) forward
William Atwood <william.atwood@concordia.ca> Fri, 27 September 2013 20:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) forward
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Actually, he is probably referring to the "6407 update draft", which is draft-weis-gdoi-iec62351-9-02. This is an update to 6407 precisely to serve the IEC needs. I suspect that the email is a plea for fast action on progressing draft-weis to RFC. Bill On 27/09/2013 1:18 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: > Hi > > Just to be clear, there is no such thing as a "draft RFC". Drafts > become RFCs, at which point they're done. You may be referring to the > fact that RFC 6407 is labeled "proposed standard". This is a label > that the IETF attaches to documents for which there is relatively > little implementation experience. The label is not automatically > changed after a while. Even things that are widely implemented and > used by millions such as IKEv2 (RFC 5996), IPsec (RFC 4301), TLS (RFC > 5246), and HTTP (RFC 2616), without a doubt the most popular protocol > on the Internet) is at "draft standard" - a classification that does > not exist any more, but was below "full standard". > > I'm adding Sean Turner, the Security Area Director, because he's been > handling many similar requests recently. > > Hope this helps > > Yoav > > On Sep 27, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Herb Falk <herb@sisconet.com > <mailto:herb@sisconet.com>> <Herb@sisconet.com > <mailto:Herb@sisconet.com>> wrote: > >> IEC TC57 WG10 (61850) and IEC TC57 WG15 (Security) has been >> developing a technology/standard for use as a secure multicast for >> its use in power grid applications using synchrophasors and other >> technologies relevant to smartgrid deployments globally. >> >> As part of the effort, some extensions to GDOI were identified. The >> 6407 draft incorporates and improves some of the enhancements already >> identified. IEC TC57 WG15 is waiting for the draft RFC to transition >> to an RFC so it can be referenced as a normative standard in IEC 62351-9. >> >> There are several utility vendors and utilities, in particular SCE >> (Southern California Edison), that are awaiting this transition so >> that their cyber security frameworks can be updated. Delays in the >> transition from draft to RFC will delay implementation of several >> projects and implementations. >> >> >> >> >> >> Herbert Falk >> Solutions Architect >> SISCO, INC. >> 6605 19 ½ Mile Rd. >> Sterling Heights, MI 48314 >> (586) 254-0020 x-105 >> <image001.png> >> >> >> "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of >> principle, stand like a rock." [Thomas Jefferson] >> >> >> NOTICE: This communication may contain privileged or other >> confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, or >> believe that you have received this communication in error, please >> do not print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the >> information. Also, please indicate to the sender that you have >> received this communication in error, and delete the copy you >> received. Thank you. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> MSEC mailing list >> MSEC@ietf.org <mailto:MSEC@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/msec > > > > _______________________________________________ > MSEC mailing list > MSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/msec -- Dr. J.W. Atwood, Eng. tel: +1 (514) 848-2424 x3046 Distinguished Professor Emeritus fax: +1 (514) 848-2830 Department of Computer Science and Software Engineering Concordia University EV 3.185 email:william.atwood@concordia.ca 1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd. West http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~bill Montreal, Quebec Canada H3G 1M8
- [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) forw… Herb Falk <herb@sisconet.com>
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Yoav Nir
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … William Atwood
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Paul Lambert
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Sean Turner
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Yoav Nir
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Sean Turner
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Yoav Nir
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Sean Turner
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Brian Weis
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Brian Weis
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Paul Lambert
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Brian Weis
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Paul Lambert
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Brian Weis
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Paul Lambert
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Yoav Nir
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Sean Turner
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Yoav Nir
- Re: [MSEC] Key Management protocol (GDOI - 6407) … Herb Falk <herb@sisconet.com>