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Re: [Mtgvenue] Participant vs Contributor

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Thu, 14 July 2016 13:52 UTC

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On 7/14/2016 3:08 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 14/07/2016 12:39, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
>>> On Jul 13, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> - A Contributor is someone who submits an IETF Contribution, which is
>>> defined as [1]
>>>
>>> - A participant is anyone who engages in the IETF activities listed
>>> under [1] in any way other than as a Contributor.
>> It would be very helpful to think through the ramifications of these definitions, and describe a way that they can be implemented without having an army of interns.
>>
>> Text?
> No. My point was that we should **NOT** confuse matters by mixing the legal
> definitions for IPR purposes with the pragmatic definitions for metrics.

Sure, but there is a choice here -- do meetings serve just contributors
or all participants.

Right now the draft(s) focus on *all* participants, but some of the
discussions (e.g., those related to measurements) seem more focused on
Contributors.   My point wasn't to say one focus is right, but rather we
should be deliberate in our discussion and consensus WRT the distinction.

Lou

> So no text. Incidentally I agree with Fred that defining metrics that can
> be automated is quite hard, but it has nothing to do with RFC3979.
>
>    Brian
>

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