Re: [Mtgvenue] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-06.txt
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 18 April 2017 20:54 UTC
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To: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>, mtgvenue@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-06.txt
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Hi Eliot, Could you kindly remind us where the issue tracker is? Regards Brian On 18/04/2017 19:46, Eliot Lear wrote: > Hi everyone, > > This draft intends to address the following issues: > > * #1: What means "mandatory/important/..." > * #3: Too much mandatory > * #4: Process innovation > * #5: Clarity on definitions re hotel rooms and the facility in Section 3 > * #6: Terminology hard to follow > * #7: Clarity of responsibility > * #8: What if Target list of cities is not known? > * #9: Concurrent objection? > * #10: What happens if there is a change of policies in the interim? > * #11: Text seems strange > * #12: Sponsor required as mandatory? > * #13: Handling repeats > * #16: What is consensus on? venue selection or process? > * #17: Timing of 3 month final check > > Each of these issues has been tagged with the -06 milestone. > > Probably we will not need to do anything with issue 18 (Align > mandatories with values). > > I would expect there to be additional issues opened at this point, as I > might have got something wrong. This draft is yours, not mine, so > please feel free to offer proposed edits or backouts (I'll have a few > myself with my editor hat off). Speaking of which, let me draw your > attention to Section 5. In my opinion we have not yet settled on > chapeau text, and have left an editorial comment in there indicating as > such. In addition, In addressing issues 10 and 17, as well as Alissa's > comments, I've attempted to provide some guidance as to what should > happen AFTER the contract is signed, but it is relatively minimal. My > suggestion is that if we cannot agree on some text along those lines > relatively quickly we simply excise the section. > > There are a number of newer issues that need to be addressed and are > not. There are also some issues that are holding, pending resolution of > the above. As such, you might reasonably expect an update in May based > on this working group's progress. > > Eliot > > On 4/18/17 9:44 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Meeting Venue of the IETF. >> >> Title : IETF Plenary Meeting Venue Selection Process >> Authors : Ray Pelletier >> Laura Nugent >> Dave Crocker >> Lou Berger >> Ole Jacobsen >> Jim Martin >> Fred Baker >> Eliot Lear >> Filename : draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-06.txt >> Pages : 28 >> Date : 2017-04-18 >> >> Abstract: >> The IAOC has responsibility for arranging IETF plenary meeting Venue >> selection and operation. This document details the IETF's Meeting >> Venue Selection Process from the perspective of its goals, criteria >> and thought processes. It points to additional process documents on >> the IAOC Web Site that go into further detail and are subject to >> change with experience. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process/ >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-06 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-06 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-06 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mtgvenue mailing list >> Mtgvenue@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mtgvenue >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mtgvenue mailing list > Mtgvenue@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mtgvenue >
- Re: [Mtgvenue] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Eliot Lear
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- Re: [Mtgvenue] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Mtgvenue] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [Mtgvenue] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Mtgvenue] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [Mtgvenue] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Mtgvenue] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [Mtgvenue] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)