Re: [multimob] Comments on draft-liu-multimob-pmipv6-multicast-ro-01(JUAN LIU)

Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@sfc.wide.ad.jp> Mon, 30 July 2012 16:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [multimob] Comments on draft-liu-multimob-pmipv6-multicast-ro-01(JUAN LIU)
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Hi,

>> >> 2/ When you describe the establishment of bidirectional tunnels 
>> >> between MAGs you refer RFC5213 for further detail, but RFC5213 does 
>> >> not include tunnel establishment between MAGs. This is not covered 
>> >> by standard PMIP (it implies an extension).
>> > You are right that RFC5213 does not include tunnel establishment 
> between 
>> > MAGs.we will correct the description in the next version.
>> > we can refer to section6.2 of draft-ietf-netext-pmip-lr for tunneling 
>> > between the MAGs.
>> 
>> See M-tunnel configuration described in section 4 of above draft.
> There can be vavious tunnel negotiation mechanisms between MAG,better 
> based on existing mechanism.

Does your draft assume MAG acts as MLD proxy for remote subscription
and also acts as PIM router for local routing?

>> >> 4/ Through the PBU-Q/PBA-Q sequence of messages you are able to 
>> >> obtain the CoA for the MN source. However, how do you know in 
>> >> advance that the MN source is attached to the domain? There is no 
>> >> way of knowing it in advance, and because the MN HoA is not an 
>> >> address of the PMIPv6 domain, how do you deduce that it is a MN 
>> >> source? Do you send the PBU-Q for all kind of SSM subscriptions? 
>> >> Additionally, what happens (what is the message) in case the source 
>> >> is effectively not attached to the PMIPv6 domain
>> > Yes,we can not know in advance that the MN source is attached to the same 
>> > domain.So if the MAG in the listener side figures(through the PBU-Q/PBA-Q 
>> > messages) that the MN source is not attached to a MAG in the domain, it 
>> > will process the multicast message as normal.
>> > We send the PBU-Q every time when the MAG in the listener side first joins 
>> > the (S,G) channel.
>> > We don't solve the case when the source is not attached to the PMIPv6 
>> > domain, the draft assumes that the MN source and MN listener are both 
>> > mobile nodes attached to their own MAG.
>> 
>> I don't understand why other query message (except IGMP/MLD query) is
>> needed.
> The query message in our solution is used to locate the MN source in the 
> PMIPv6 domain.

Then I may ask the same question Luis did.
Does this extension properly work with moving source?

Regards,
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Hitoshi Asaeda