Re: [multrans] link to meeting slides for multrans BoF

Simon Perreault <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> Sat, 12 November 2011 14:52 UTC

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Dan Wing wrote, on 11/11/2011 07:20 PM:
> Slide 7 says "Assuming AF1 is an ALG".  My comment:  don't build a system
> requiring an ALG.

We need to be careful here. There are two types of ALGs: transparent and
non-transparent (from RFC2101). Only the transparent ALG is "evil". A
non-transparent ALG, one that operates within the boundaries of an application
protocol (e.g. a SIP B2BUA, an HTTP proxy), can be a fine, recommendable
transition mechanism.

Simon
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