[nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up
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From: Luigi IANNONE <luigi.iannone@huawei.com>
To: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>, Meiling Chen <chenmeiling@chinamobile.com>
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Hi Watson, > > Correct. Some claims are easy to verify. Most aren't. Statements that "the > router supports X" aren't really interesting. Statements that "this > configuration will never pass your traffic over a bad link" are, but are a lot > harder to show. > > > [LI] Agreed. This is a very claim hard show/attest. Note however that this is not what NASR is trying to do. NASR is more about router has feature X, Y, and Z which is what I want, and that traffic goes through the selected routers that support X, Y and Z. NASR is not about proving that traffic does not go somewhere else (proof of non-transit is out of scope). Ciao L.
- [nasr] NASR BOF Follow-Up Liuchunchi(Peter)
- [nasr] Re: [saag] NASR BOF Follow-Up Meiling Chen
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Richard Barnes
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Michael Richardson
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Luigi IANNONE
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Meiling Chen
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Henk Birkholz
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Henk Birkholz
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up 刘鹏辉
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Toerless Eckert
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Fo… Watson Ladd
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Liuchunchi(Peter)
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Henk Birkholz
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Michael Richardson
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Henk Birkholz
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Henk Birkholz
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Henk Birkholz
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Liuchunchi(Peter)
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Richard Barnes
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Watson Ladd
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Toerless Eckert
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Toerless Eckert
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Henk Birkholz
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Henk Birkholz
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Watson Ladd
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Toerless Eckert
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Toerless Eckert
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Watson Ladd
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Michael Richardson
- [nasr] Summary of Discussions So far---Re: [saag]… Meiling Chen
- [nasr] Re: Summary of Discussions So far---Re: [s… Luigi IANNONE
- [nasr] Re: Summary of Discussions So far---Re: [s… Meiling Chen
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Meiling Chen
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Watson Ladd
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Luigi IANNONE
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Meiling Chen
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Henk Birkholz
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Fo… Liuchunchi(Peter)
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Fo… Toerless Eckert
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Henk Birkholz
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Meiling Chen
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Toerless Eckert
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Henk Birkholz
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Meiling Chen
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Luigi IANNONE
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Meiling Chen
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Fo… Stephen Farrell
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Luigi IANNONE
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Liuchunchi(Peter)
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Toerless Eckert
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Fo… Liuchunchi(Peter)
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Fo… Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Fo… Meiling Chen
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Fo… Adrian Farrel
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Fo… Luigi IANNONE
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NASR BOF Fo… Eric Rescorla
- [nasr] Re: [saag] Re: Re: NASR BOF Follow-Up Carsten Bormann