RE: updated NETCONF charter text (replace instead of merge this t ime)

"McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> Thu, 08 December 2005 16:21 UTC

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From: "McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com>
To: 'Balazs Lengyel' <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>
Cc: "Netconf (E-mail)" <netconf@ops.ietf.org>
Subject: RE: updated NETCONF charter text (replace instead of merge this t ime)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:17:39 -0800
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Hi,

While I sympathize with the desire for a granular locking
mechanism, in the absence of a mandatory standard data model
for NetConf, the _meaning_ of a fine-grained lock is anyone's
guess.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org]On
> Behalf Of Balazs Lengyel
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:45 AM
> Cc: Netconf (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: updated NETCONF charter text (replace instead of 
> merge this
> time)
> 
> 
> Hello Andy,
> I believe that a granular locking mechanism should be 
> included in the second phase.
> Balazs
> 
> Andy Bierman wrote:
> > Description of Working Group:
> > Wes Hardaker is Technical Advisor for Security Matters
> > 
> > Configuration of networks of devices has become a critical 
> requirement
> > for operators in today's highly interoperable networks. 
> Operators from
> > large to small have developed their own mechanisms or used vendor
> > specific mechanisms to transfer configuration data to and from a
> > device, and for examining device state information which may impact
> > the configuration. Each of these mechanisms may be 
> different in various
> > aspects, such as session establishment, user authentication,
> > configuration data exchange, and error responses.
> > 
> > The Netconf Working Group is chartered to produce a 
> protocol suitable
> > for network configuration, with the following characteristics:
> > 
> >  - Provides retrieval mechanisms which can differentiate between
> >    configuration data and non-configuration data
> >  - Is extensible enough that vendors will provide access to all
> >    configuration data on the device using a single protocol
> >  - Has a programmatic interface (avoids screen scraping and
> >    formatting-related changes between releases)
> >  - Uses a textual data representation, that can be easily
> >    manipulated using non-specialized text manipulation tools.
> >  - Supports integration with existing user authentication methods
> >  - Supports integration with existing configuration database systems
> >  - Supports network wide configuration transactions (with features
> >    such as locking and rollback capability)
> >  - Is as transport-independent as possible
> >  - Provides the following support for asynchronous notifications:
> >     - Specify the <hello> message (capability exchange) details to
> >       support notifications.
> >     - Specify the application mapping details to support 
> notifications.
> >     - Specify the protocol syntax and semantics of a 
> notification message.
> >     - Specify or select a notification content information model.
> >     - Specify a mechanism for controlling the delivery (turn on/off)
> >       of notifications during a session.
> >     - Specify a mechanism for selectively receiving a configurable 
> > subset of
> >       all possible notification types.
> > 
> > The Netconf protocol will use XML for data encoding purposes,
> > because XML is a widely deployed standard which is supported
> > by a large number of applications. XML also supports 
> hierarchical data
> > structures.
> > 
> > The Netconf protocol should be independent of the data definition
> > language and data models used to describe configuration and state
> > data.
> > 
> > However, the authorization model used in the protocol is 
> dependent on
> > the data model. Although these issues must be fully addressed to
> > develop standard data models, only a small part of this work will be
> > initially addressed. This group will specify requirements 
> for standard
> > data models in order to fully support the Netconf protocol, such as:
> > 
> >  - identification of principals, such as user names or distinguished
> >    names
> >  - mechanism to distinguish configuration from 
> non-configuration data
> >  - XML namespace conventions
> >  - XML usage guidelines
> > 
> > It should be possible to transport the Netconf protocol 
> using several
> > different protocols. The group will select at least one suitable
> > transport mechanism, and define a mapping for the selected 
> protocol(s).
> > 
> > The initial work will be restricted to the following items:
> > 
> >  - Netconf Protocol Specification, which defines the operational
> >    model, protocol operations, transaction model, data model
> >    requirements, security requirements, and transport layer
> >    requirements.
> > 
> >  - Netconf over <Transport-TBD> Specification, which defines how
> >    the Netconf protocol is used with the transport protocol
> >    selected by the group, and how it meets the security and
> >    transport layer requirements of the Netconf Protocol
> >    Specification.. There will be a document of this type for
> >    each selected transport protocol.
> > 
> > The working group will take the XMLCONF Configuration Protocol
> > <draft-enns-xmlconf-spec-00.txt> as a starting point.
> > 
> > Additional Notification work will be addressed after the 
> initial work
> > is completed.
> > 
> > An individual submission Internet Draft has been proposed to the WG
> > as the starting point for the Notification work.  The WG 
> shall adopt the
> > document identified as 'draft-chisholm-netconf-event-01.txt' as the
> > starting point for this work.
> > 
> > Goals and Milestones:
> > Done    Working Group formed  Done    Submit initial 
> Netconf Protocol 
> > draft  Done    Submit initial Netconf over (transport-TBD) draft  
> > Done    Begin Working Group Last Call for the Netconf 
> Protocol draft  
> > Done    Begin Working Group Last Call for the Netconf over 
> > (transport-TBD) draft  Done    Submit final version of the Netconf 
> > Protocol draft to the IESG  Done    Submit final version of 
> the Netconf 
> > over SOAP draft to the IESG  Done    Submit final version 
> of the Netconf 
> > over BEEP draft to the IESG  Done    Submit final version 
> of the Netconf 
> > over SSH draft to the IESG  Dec 05   Update charter
> > Jan 06   Submit first version of NETCONF Notifications document
> > Sep 06   Begin WGLC of NETCONF Notifications document
> > Dec 06   Submit final version of NETCONF Notifications 
> document to IESG for
> >              consideration
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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