Re: [Netconf] LC on netconf-event-notifications-08

"Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com> Mon, 19 March 2018 17:15 UTC

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From: "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com>
To: Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>, Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>, "netconf@ietf.org" <netconf@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] LC on netconf-event-notifications-08
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Hi Qin,

> From: Qin Wu, Saturday, March 17, 2018 2:24 AM
> 
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Eric Voit (evoit) [mailto:evoit@cisco.com]
> 发送时间: 2018年3月17日 6:28
> 收件人: Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>; Kent Watsen
> <kwatsen@juniper.net>; netconf@ietf.org
> 主题: RE: [Netconf] LC on netconf-event-notifications-08
> 
> Hi Qin,
> 
> Thanks for the comments.  Thoughts in-line...
> 
> > Qin Wu, March 16, 2018 3:25 PM
> >
> > One followup comment.
> > Section 4, 1st paragraph said:
> > "
> > A publisher is allowed to concurrently support both
> >    [I-D.draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications] and [RFC5277]'s
> >    "create-subscription" RPC,
> > "
> > There is no "create-subscription" RPC in
> > [I-D.draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-
> > notifications]? Is "create-subscription" RPC  referred to as
> > “establish- subscription” defined in in [I-D.draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-
> notifications]?
> 
> No.  The create-subscription RPC is actually in RFC-5277.    The subscribed-
> notifications draft provides establish-subscription as an evolved version of
> that older RPC.    Nevertheless, a publisher might wish to support both the
> older and the newer specifications
> 
> [Qin]: Would it be great to make this clear in the text. Thanks.

I tweaked the text, and the full section now reads...:

4.  Compatibility with RFC-5277's create-subscription

   A publisher is allowed to concurrently support configured
   subscriptions and dynamic subscription RPCs of
   [I-D.draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications] at the same time as
   [RFC5277]'s "create-subscription" RPC.  However a single NETCONF
   transport session MUST NOT support both this specification and a
   subscription established by [RFC5277]'s "create-subscription" RPC.
   To protect against any attempts to use a single NETCONF transport
   session in this way:

   o  A solution must reply with the [RFC6241] error "operation-not-
      supported" if a "create-subscription" RPC is received on a NETCONF
      session where any other
      [I-D.draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications] or [RFC5277]
      subscription exists.
   o  It is a prohibited to send updates or state change notifications
      for a configured subscription on a NETCONF session where the
      create-subscription RPC has successfully [RFC5277] created
      subscription.
   o  A "create-subscription" RPC MUST be rejected if any
      [I-D.draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications] or
      [RFC5277]subscription is active across that NETCONF transport
      session.

Does this cover your concern?

Thanks,
Eric

 
> > How is “establish-subscription” Compatibility with RFC-5277's create-
> > subscription? “establish-subscription”  and “create-subscription” can
> > not be used in the same NETCONF session?
> 
> Correct.  They cannot be used in the same session.
> 
> 
> > Section 6.2 configured subscription
> > Why draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications-08
> > Is a separate draft instead of part of
> > draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-
> > 10 since the state machine for a configured subscription is mainly
> > defined in draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-10?
> 
> The subscribed-notifications draft is transport independent.     netconf-
> event-notifications provides details on how allow subscriptions over
> NETCONF.  Another draft not currently in last call (draft-ietf-netconf-
> restconf-notif) describes how to allow subscriptions over RESTCONF or
> HTTTP.    Other transport binding drafts exist for UDP.  Some are being
> written up for CBOR.
> 
> 
> To get an idea of the interplay between many of the different drafts, read:
> draft-voit-netconf-subscription-and-notif-overview
> 
> [Qin]: Good, thanks for your clarification.
> 
> Eric
> 
> > -Qin
> > -----邮件原件-----
> > 发件人: Netconf [mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Qin Wu
> > 发送时间: 2018年3月7日 9:47
> > 收件人: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>; netconf@ietf.org
> > 主题: Re: [Netconf] LC on netconf-event-notifications-08
> >
> > Support for LC.
> >
> > -Qin
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Netconf [mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kent
> > > Watsen
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:11 PM
> > > To: netconf@ietf.org
> > > Subject: [Netconf] LC on netconf-event-notifications-08
> > >
> > > WG,
> > >
> > > The authors of netconf-event-notifications have indicated privately
> > > that they believe this document is now ready for Last Call.
> > >
> > > This starts a 2.5-week Last Call on
> > > draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-
> > > notifications-08 [1] The LC will end on March 17, or when active
> > > threads peter out.
> > >
> > > Please send your comments on this thread. Reviews of the document,
> > > and statement of support, are particularly helpful to the authors.
> > > If you have concerns about the document, please state those too.
> > >
> > > Authors please indicate if you are aware of any IPR on the document.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notific
> > > at
> > > ions-08
> > >
> > >
> > > Kent & Mahesh
> > >
> > >
> > >
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