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Re: [netconf] [Last-Call] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-netconf-ssh-client-server-24

Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net> Wed, 02 June 2021 14:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [netconf] [Last-Call] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-netconf-ssh-client-server-24
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>> It seems that the following might works:
>> 
>>  - In ietf-ssh-client, rename "userauth-*" to "client-ident-*”
>>      - since client-side config, the “userauth” nomenclature is not as strong
>>      - aligns “client-ident” usage with the “tls” and “http” drafts
>> 
>>  - In ietf-ssh-server, rename "userauth-*" to "local-user-auth-*”
>>      - makes sense as nodes depend from a container called “users” that
>>        has a if-feature statement “local-users-supported”
>>      - thus, can simultaneously be parsed as "[local-user]-auth-*”
>>        and "local-[user-auth]-*”
>> 
>> I’ll make this  change if no objections.
> 
> I have not understood which problem this renaming solves. SSH
> authentication mechanisms have well established names, why is it
> useful to invent different names?

Focus on the method names:

      "publickey"             REQUIRED
      "password"              OPTIONAL
      "hostbased"             OPTIONAL
      "none"                  NOT RECOMMENDED

The “userauth” string isn’t important.

K.

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