[netconf] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-netconf-ssh-client-server-24

Andy Bierman via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> Tue, 25 May 2021 19:21 UTC

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Reviewer: Andy Bierman
Review result: Ready

Comments:

1) Measuring Interoperability for groupings and identities

[same comment for SSH and TLS drafts]

These modules are intentionally abstract.
There are no protocol-accessible objects defined at all.
Interoperability is usually measured in the context of a
specific protocol (e.g., NETCONF).

There is an assumption that interoperability will be achieved
by some other RFCs that will have "uses" statements to create
protocol-accessible or otherwise implementable objects.

There is also an assumption that the groupings will be used the
same everywhere, and the only difference will be the
path from root to the objects in these groupings.
In fact, the "refine" statement allows each usage to be
different.

Perhaps the drafts should mention these interoperability issues.

2) same feature names in 2 modules

  - feature userauth-hostbased
  - feature userauth-none
  - feature userauth-password
  - feature userauth-publickey

The ietf-ssh-client and ietf-ssh-server modules both use these
feature names. IMO users will not expect this, and this will cause
confusion.

Why can't these features be defined once in ietf-ssh-common.yang?
Seems like client and server will advertise the feature for
implementing their relevant values.