Re: [Netconf] usage of HTTP in restconf-notif-07
Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> Mon, 17 September 2018 19:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] usage of HTTP in restconf-notif-07
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"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com> wrote: > Hi, > > PSI. > > On 2018-09-17, 1:45 PM, "Netconf on behalf of Martin Bjorklund" > <netconf-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of mbj@tail-f.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I think the -07 version is a step in the right direction for this > draft. But I have a comment on the usage of HTTP/2. > > I am not an expert at all in HTTP/2, but I wonder if the way this > draft uses it is correct. The draft is very short on details, but > essentially says that the client POSTs to the "uri" that the server > returns (probably w/o a body?), and then that the server sends > individual notifications in DATA frames. Is this really legal? RFC > 7540, section 8 says: > > HTTP/2 is intended to be as compatible as possible with current uses > of HTTP. This means that, from the application perspective, the > features of the protocol are largely unchanged. To achieve this, all > request and response semantics are preserved, although the syntax of > conveying those semantics has changed. > > It seems to me that the restconf-notif draft violates this paragraph. > > <RR> Ack, HTTP semantics have to be followed, there's no reason to do > otherwise. I'll check to see what details/clarifications can be added. > > In fact, it seems that what the draft tries to do is more or less > exactly the same as SSE, except w/o the details, e.g., it doesn't > specify the content-type. > > It also seems to me (after some googling) that it is perfectly fine to > use standard SSE with HTTP/2, and that's what people are using to > deliver server-generated events/notifs to clients with HTTP/2. > > So, this draft should probably not mention HTTP/2 at all, but instead > just specify the semantics of the "uri" resource and how a client can > POST to it to get SSE going. The draft should the refer to section > 6.4 of RFC 8040 for how notifications are sent from this resource. > > <RR> My understanding is that HTTP2 is mentioned in the draft so that > we can use HTTP2 streams. The point you're making is that if this is a > RESTCONF transport draft then we should just use what's in RFC8040, > I'm ok with that but would like to hear from the other authors since I > might be missing some history. Right. I think that if HTTP/2 is used then a client can start any stream it wants; we don't have to specify anything about this in this draft. For example, if a client doesn't want to start a new stream, that should also be ok. /martin
- [Netconf] usage of HTTP in restconf-notif-07 Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] usage of HTTP in restconf-notif-07 Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: [Netconf] usage of HTTP in restconf-notif-07 Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] usage of HTTP in restconf-notif-07 Qin Wu