Re: [netconf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server-01.txt

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Subject: Re: [netconf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server-01.txt
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Hi Alex, 

Thanks for taking care of the comments. 

For this specific one:
 
> The current model was based on the comments that were coming from the
> UDP-notif YANG model, where the WG felt it was safer to be more
> conservative on how to configure the udp-notif receiver.

I don't think we need to restrict the common model based on a very specific use. 

I do still prefer a consistent approach independent of the transport protocol.  

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Alex Huang Feng <alex.huang-feng@insa-lyon.fr>
> Envoyé : mardi 27 février 2024 18:06
> À : netconf <netconf@ietf.org>; BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> Cc : Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>; Pierre Francois
> <pierre.francois@insa-lyon.fr>; draft-ietf-netconf-udp-
> notif.authors@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [netconf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-
> server-01.txt
> 
> Dear NETCONF WG,
> 
> I submitted a new iteration addressing some of the comments from the
> ML during the adoption call.
> 
> Changes:
> - The ports have become "mandatory false" with a default value of 0
> following the tcp-client-server model.
> - Security Considerations is following the template
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki
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> Med asked why the udp-server model was not following the tcp-server
> model:
> grouping tcp-client-grouping:
>     +-- remote-address                inet:host
>     +-- remote-port?                  inet:port-number
>     +-- local-address?                inet:ip-address
>     |       {local-binding-supported}?
>     +-- local-port?                   inet:port-number
>     |       {local-binding-supported}?
> 
> The current model was based on the comments that were coming from the
> UDP-notif YANG model, where the WG felt it was safer to be more
> conservative on how to configure the udp-notif receiver.
> As of now, the UDP-notif draft is the main user of this grouping
> draft.
> That is the reason why the remote-address is "inet:ip-address-no-zone"
> instead of a simple "inet:ip-address" or "inet:host" as was defined in
> the tcp grouping.
> 
> My question to the WG is:
> - Should udp-client-server groupings follow the tcp-client-server
> groupings models and have generic "inet:host" and local-addresses in
> the client OR stay conservative following the comments from UDP-notif
> draft?
> 
> One comment on the impacts:
> - At first, UDP-notif was going to use this generic grouping to
> configure its receiver (this draft has become a dependance for UDP-
> notif).
> If client-server-grouping draft follow the tcp model, should the UDP-
> notif not use this model and implement a specific one with the
> "inet:ip-address-no-zone"?
> 
> Regarding managing dual stacks on a single server, I don't have an
> answer, so I am open to any suggestions or contributions.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alex
> 
> 
> > On 27 Feb 2024, at 17:03, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> >
> > Internet-Draft draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server-01.txt is now
> available.
> > It is a work item of the Network Configuration (NETCONF) WG of the
> IETF.
> >
> >   Title:   YANG Groupings for UDP Clients and UDP Servers
> >   Authors: Alex Huang Feng
> >            Pierre Francois
> >            Kent Watsen
> >   Name:    draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server-01.txt
> >   Pages:   10
> >   Dates:   2024-02-27
> >
> > Abstract:
> >
> >   This document defines two YANG 1.1 modules to support the
> >   configuration of UDP clients and UDP servers.
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> >
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