Re: [netconf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server-01.txt

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CC: netconf <netconf@ietf.org>, Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>, Pierre Francois <pierre.francois@insa-lyon.fr>, "draft-ietf-netconf-udp-notif.authors@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-netconf-udp-notif.authors@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [netconf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server-01.txt
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Re-, 

Thanks, Alex.

I trust that you will also mirror the changes to better cover dual-stack.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Alex Huang Feng <alex.huang-feng@insa-lyon.fr>
> Envoyé : mercredi 20 mars 2024 12:27
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> Cc : netconf <netconf@ietf.org>; Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>;
> Pierre Francois <pierre.francois@insa-lyon.fr>; draft-ietf-netconf-
> udp-notif.authors@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [netconf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-
> server-01.txt
> 
> Dear Med,
> 
> I will change the generic grouping and follow the tcp-client-server
> groupings structure.
> - changing the ip to a generic inet:host
> - adding the local-address and local-port to the client
> 
> I will check then how to manage all this at the UDP-notif level.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alex
> 
> > On 20 Mar 2024, at 09:29, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> >
> > Hi Alex,
> >
> > Thanks for taking care of the comments.
> >
> > For this specific one:
> >
> >> The current model was based on the comments that were coming from
> the
> >> UDP-notif YANG model, where the WG felt it was safer to be more
> >> conservative on how to configure the udp-notif receiver.
> >
> > I don't think we need to restrict the common model based on a very
> specific use.
> >
> > I do still prefer a consistent approach independent of the transport
> protocol.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Med
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : Alex Huang Feng <alex.huang-feng@insa-lyon.fr> Envoyé : mardi
> 27
> >> février 2024 18:06 À : netconf <netconf@ietf.org>; BOUCADAIR
> Mohamed
> >> INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Cc : Kent Watsen
> >> <kent+ietf@watsen.net>; Pierre Francois
> >> <pierre.francois@insa-lyon.fr>; draft-ietf-netconf-udp-
> >> notif.authors@ietf.org Objet : Re: [netconf] I-D Action:
> >> draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client- server-01.txt
> >>
> >> Dear NETCONF WG,
> >>
> >> I submitted a new iteration addressing some of the comments from
> the
> >> ML during the adoption call.
> >>
> >> Changes:
> >> - The ports have become "mandatory false" with a default value of 0
> >> following the tcp-client-server model.
> >> - Security Considerations is following the template
> >>
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> >> Med asked why the udp-server model was not following the tcp-server
> >> model:
> >> grouping tcp-client-grouping:
> >>    +-- remote-address                inet:host
> >>    +-- remote-port?                  inet:port-number
> >>    +-- local-address?                inet:ip-address
> >>    |       {local-binding-supported}?
> >>    +-- local-port?                   inet:port-number
> >>    |       {local-binding-supported}?
> >>
> >> The current model was based on the comments that were coming from
> the
> >> UDP-notif YANG model, where the WG felt it was safer to be more
> >> conservative on how to configure the udp-notif receiver.
> >> As of now, the UDP-notif draft is the main user of this grouping
> >> draft.
> >> That is the reason why the remote-address is "inet:ip-address-no-
> zone"
> >> instead of a simple "inet:ip-address" or "inet:host" as was defined
> >> in the tcp grouping.
> >>
> >> My question to the WG is:
> >> - Should udp-client-server groupings follow the tcp-client-server
> >> groupings models and have generic "inet:host" and local-addresses
> in
> >> the client OR stay conservative following the comments from UDP-
> notif
> >> draft?
> >>
> >> One comment on the impacts:
> >> - At first, UDP-notif was going to use this generic grouping to
> >> configure its receiver (this draft has become a dependance for UDP-
> >> notif).
> >> If client-server-grouping draft follow the tcp model, should the
> UDP-
> >> notif not use this model and implement a specific one with the
> >> "inet:ip-address-no-zone"?
> >>
> >> Regarding managing dual stacks on a single server, I don't have an
> >> answer, so I am open to any suggestions or contributions.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 27 Feb 2024, at 17:03, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server-01.txt is now
> >> available.
> >>> It is a work item of the Network Configuration (NETCONF) WG of the
> >> IETF.
> >>>
> >>>  Title:   YANG Groupings for UDP Clients and UDP Servers
> >>>  Authors: Alex Huang Feng
> >>>           Pierre Francois
> >>>           Kent Watsen
> >>>  Name:    draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server-01.txt
> >>>  Pages:   10
> >>>  Dates:   2024-02-27
> >>>
> >>> Abstract:
> >>>
> >>>  This document defines two YANG 1.1 modules to support the
> >>> configuration of UDP clients and UDP servers.
> >>>
> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> >>>
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