Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Charter - respond BEFORE Sept 1st
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Wed, 05 September 2012 14:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Charter - respond BEFORE Sept 1st
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+ 1 Regards, Benoit. > We had agreed in our last f2f meeting that people would submit > individual I-Ds, and based on that we would potentially > consider work in this space. So by all means do submit > such individual drafts and discuss them on the mailing list. > > But we do not have a good problem statement or starting I-D > to base this work on, so cannot put it on the current charter. > > Bert Wijnen > > On 8/17/12 11:04 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I had the impression that there was a reasonable agreement that work >> on operational state data is needed. Although this problem lies >> somewhere between NETCONF and NETMOD, I think the NETCONF WG is now >> in a better position to start this work because apparently NETMOD WG >> will have to continue the work on the core data models for some time. >> >> So I propose the following fourth item for the charter: >> >> 4. The WG will investigate the relationship and interactions between >> configurations and >> operational state data, propose their appropriate representation >> and semantics, and >> devise methods for effective data modeling of both configurations >> and operational state data. >> It is expected that this work will be carried out in a close >> sooperation with the NETMOD WG. >> >> Lada >> >> "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" <bertietf@bwijnen.net> writes: >> >>> Based on the comments and feedback and the positions >>> expressed on the mailing list, it is clear that after all >>> we did NOT have consensus on the new WG charter. >>> >>> Without further ado, this is another proposed WG charter. >>> It focuses on the things that we do seme to have agreement on. >>> >>> Pls comment and/or express your support or objections >>> no later than August 31, 2012. >>> >>> OK, new chapter text (omitting the description of what we have >>> achieved sofar): >>> >>> In the current phase of the incremental development of NETCONF the >>> workgroup will focus on following items: >>> >>> 1. Advance NETCONF over TLS to be in-line with NETCONF 1:1. >>> This means that RFC5593 needs to be updated. >>> >>> 2. Based on the implementation, deployment experience and >>> interoperability >>> testing, the WG will document the status of NETCONF in a report. >>> Based on this, the WG may decide to make some clarifications to >>> RFC6241 and RFC6242 (then also fixing any reported errata). >>> >>> 3. Since Netconf over BEEP and over SOAP seem not being deployed >>> the WG will write a document that makes those 2 protocols >>> (RFC4743 and RFC4744) HISTORIC. >>> >>> Goals and Milestones: >>> done - Send with-defaults to IESG for consideration as >>> Proposed Standard >>> done - WG Last Call on rfc4741bis >>> done - rfc4741bis to IESG for consideration as Proposed >>> Standard >>> done - Send rfc4742bis to IESG for consideration as proposed >>> Standard. >>> done - first WG draft (rev 00) on NACM posted >>> done - first WG draft (rev 00) on NETCONF specific YANG >>> modules posted >>> done - WGLC for NACM document >>> done - WGLC for NETCONF specific notifications document >>> done - submit NACM document to IESG for consideration as >>> Proposed Standard >>> done - submit NETCONF specific notifications document to >>> IESG for >>> consideration as Proposed Standard >>> Aug 2012 - submit initial WG draft for rfc5539bis >>> Aug 2012 - submit initial WG draft for making RFC4743 and >>> RFC4744 historic. >>> Sep 2012 - WGLC for rfc5539bis >>> Sep 2012 - WGLC for RFC4743 and 4743 to historic >>> Oct 2012 - submit rfc5539bis to AD/IESG for consideration as >>> Proposed Standard >>> Oct 2012 - submit request to AD/IESG to make RFC4743 and 4744 >>> historic >>> Nov 2012 - Collect Implementation/Deployment reports for RFC6241 >>> and 6242 >>> Dec 2012 - Initial I-D for RFC6241/6242 >>> implementation/deployment experience >>> Jan 2013 - WGLC on RFC6241/6242 implementation/deployment >>> experience >>> Feb 2013 - submit RFC6241/6242 implementation/deployment >>> experience doc >>> to IESG for publication as Informational RFC. >>> Mar 2013 - Evaluate if more work needs to be done by NETCONF WG >>> or close WG >>> >>> Bert and Mehmet >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Netconf mailing list >>> Netconf@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf >> > _______________________________________________ > Netconf mailing list > Netconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf > >
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Martin Bjorklund
- [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Charter … Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Tina TSOU
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Phil Shafer
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Alexander Clemm (alex)
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Xiang Li
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Xiang Li
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Andy Bierman
- [Netconf] Operational (or other non config) state… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Martin Bjorklund
- [Netconf] Operational state (Was: New WGLC for a … Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Operational state (Was: New WGLC fo… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Operational state (Was: New WGLC fo… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Phil Shafer
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Phil Shafer
- [Netconf] Transience, persistence, configuration … Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Netconf] Transience, persistence, configurat… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Transience, persistence, configurat… Jan Lindblad
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Patrick Gili (pgili)
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] operational state (WAS: New WGLC fo… Ladislav Lhotka
- [Netconf] REminder: deadline Aug 31st: New WGLC f… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [Netconf] REminder: deadline Aug 31st: New WG… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Netconf] REminder: deadline Aug 31st: New WG… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] REminder: deadline Aug 31st: New WG… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] REminder: deadline Aug 31st: New WG… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Netconf] REminder: deadline Aug 31st: New WG… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] REminder: deadline Aug 31st: New WG… Xiang Li
- Re: [Netconf] REminder: deadline Aug 31st: New WG… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [Netconf] REminder: deadline Aug 31st: New WG… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] operational state (WAS: New WGLC fo… t.petch
- Re: [Netconf] operational state (WAS: New WGLC fo… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] operational state (WAS: New WGLC fo… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [Netconf] New WGLC for a proposed new WG Char… Benoit Claise
- [Netconf] Operational State: Re: New WGLC for a p… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Netconf] Operational State: Re: New WGLC for… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Operational State: Re: New WGLC for… Patrick Gili (pgili)
- Re: [Netconf] Operational State: Re: New WGLC for… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Netconf] Operational State: Re: New WGLC for… Alexander Clemm (alex)
- Re: [Netconf] Operational State: Re: New WGLC for… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Operational State: Re: New WGLC for… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Operational State: Re: New WGLC for… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] Operational State: Re: New WGLC for… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Operational State: Re: New WGLC for… Ladislav Lhotka