Re: [netlmm] Last Call: draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-interactions (Interactions betweenPMIPv6 and MIPv6: scenarios and related issues) to Informational RFC
"Charles E. Perkins" <charles.perkins@earthlink.net> Mon, 03 May 2010 21:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netlmm] Last Call: draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-interactions (Interactions betweenPMIPv6 and MIPv6: scenarios and related issues) to Informational RFC
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Hello folks, Here are the rest of my comments on the abovementioned Internet Draft. ==================================================================== > For this reason, it is recommended that when the MIPv6 home > link is implemented as a PMIPv6 domain, the HA/LMA implementation > treats the two protocol as independent. Why not first recommend that the HA/LMA implement some platform-specific mechanism for identifying the alternate identifiers (e.g., MN-ID and MN-HoA)? > "More in details the following principles ..." --> "In more detail, the following principles ..." > " ... The mobile node needs to bootstrap" --> " ... The mobile node may need to bootstrap" > service continuity. Therefore the following steps must be performed > by the UE: --> service continuity. Therefore the following steps might be performed by the MN: In the following steps one and two: "needs to" --> "may need to" In step three: "assign" --> "may assign" "Since all these steps must" --> "If all these steps must" "that the mobile node establishes" --> "that the mobile node establish" or, better: > it is recommended > that the mobile node establishes --> "the mobile node SHOULD establish" along with a little rewording of the next subordinate clause. "has Mobile IPv6 stack active" --> "continues to make use of Mobile IPv6" "as if it is attached" --> "as if it were attached" -- BUT: in the scenario under discussion, isn't it? [boot-integrated]: This citation needs to be updated; and, apparently it now has a distinguished author as well as an editor. But, it's been in the RFC editor's queue for TWO YEARS?! That's a new one on me. "MN-HoA.For" --> "MN-HoA. For" is this a bug in xml2rfc? > For this reason, the mobile > node must be configured to propose MN-HoA as the home address in the > IKEv2 INTERNAL_IP6_ADDRESS attribute during the IKEv2 exchange with > the HA/LMA. I think this qualifies as another requirement placed by PMIP on MIPv6 nodes. Maybe it would be a good idea to make a new section and list these requirements newly placed by PMIP. I'm starting to wonder whether these new mandates might belong in rfc3775bis. "When the mobile node hands over" --> "When the mobile node migrates to" <basestations perform handovers, not mobile nodes> > The > mobile node may set the R bit defined in NEMO specification a) citation required for "NEMO specification" b) "NEMO specification" --> "the NEMO specification" c) _ouch_! Now we have a new mandate placed by PMIP onto NEMO.<!> "is created irrespective" --> "may be created regardless" <I think it is unwise to prohibit implementers from coordinating the binding cache entries of PMIP and MIPv6 if they serve the same mobile node, as I have mentioned earlier> "In this section it is assumed" --> "In this section we consider the case where" > 4.3. Solutions related to scenario B This conflicts with the sentence in section 1: > this document presents and > identifies all issues pertained to these scenarios and discusses > possible means and mechanisms that are recommended to enable them. ==================================================================== On 5/3/2010 7:24 AM, The IESG wrote: > The IESG has received a request from the Network-based Localized Mobility > Management WG (netlmm) to consider the following document: > > - 'Interactions between PMIPv6 and MIPv6: scenarios and related issues ' > <draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-interactions-05.txt> as an Informational RFC > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits > final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the > ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2010-05-17. Exceptionally, > comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please > retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. > > The file can be obtained via > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-interactions-05.txt > > > IESG discussion can be tracked via > https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=17831&rfc_flag=0 > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce >
- [netlmm] Last Call: draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-interac… The IESG
- Re: [netlmm] Last Call: draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-int… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [netlmm] Last Call: draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-int… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [netlmm] Last Call: draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-int… Giaretta, Gerardo
- Re: [netlmm] Last Call: draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-int… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [netlmm] Last Call: draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-int… Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [netlmm] Last Call: draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-int… Jari Arkko