Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-11

Alexander Clemm <alexander.clemm@huawei.com> Fri, 24 February 2017 00:25 UTC

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From: Alexander Clemm <alexander.clemm@huawei.com>
To: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>, "draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model@ietf.org>
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Hi Kent,

I would think option c is the preferable option.  And I agree with your implied suggestion to accomplish this via references to the keystore.

Option a could be a less-preferred-still-acceptable alternative.  The case with multiple signers is a true corner case.

I don’t think b is acceptable, frankly.
--- Alex

From: Kent Watsen [mailto:kwatsen@juniper.net]
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To: Alexander Clemm <alexander.clemm@huawei.com>; draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-11

> <ALEX>
> True, this is keystore territory, and I don’t think this should venture in that direction – the [sic]
> can be considered clearly out of scope.

Why would it be out of scope?  Seems like this is actually what you might want given what you
wrote below...


> However, what would actually make sense would be to offer a configuration option that
> clearly states which of the signature options (and signing material) should be used.
> Clearly the ability to configure this will be needed.

I think I agree here but, if I understand you correctly, wouldn't this be best accomplished
via references to keystore keys/certificates?


> If you want to accommodate this,

Actually, I'm just probing the issue.  I was hoping the response was going to be "this was discussed
by the working group here: <link to email-thread>" and we could move on.   But since that does
not seem to be the case, it would be good for the WG (not me) to decide if we want/need to
accommodate this.  What do people think?

Options:
  a) leave as is (and document the shortcoming)
  b) remove signing-options (add back later when ready)
  c) address the issue now


> you probably need to consider another modification to the model:  It is conceivable that there
> could be multiple signers, and different signers might each use a different option.  Therefore, to
> allow for differentiation by signer, you might want to consider introducing a corresponding
> parameter under a list of signers.  (You could even move the configuration parameters into this
> list, although frankly I would opt to keep those parameters global (and the use of the model
> simple), not per-signer.)

True, and potentially a reason to not go with (a) as, with that option, it may not
be easy to add in this kind of flexibility later in a backwards-compatible manner.


Thanks,
Kent        // shepherd