Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-11
Alexander Clemm <alexander.clemm@huawei.com> Fri, 24 February 2017 00:25 UTC
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From: Alexander Clemm <alexander.clemm@huawei.com>
To: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>, "draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-11
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Hi Kent, I would think option c is the preferable option. And I agree with your implied suggestion to accomplish this via references to the keystore. Option a could be a less-preferred-still-acceptable alternative. The case with multiple signers is a true corner case. I don’t think b is acceptable, frankly. --- Alex From: Kent Watsen [mailto:kwatsen@juniper.net] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:13 PM To: Alexander Clemm <alexander.clemm@huawei.com>; draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model@ietf.org Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-11 > <ALEX> > True, this is keystore territory, and I don’t think this should venture in that direction – the [sic] > can be considered clearly out of scope. Why would it be out of scope? Seems like this is actually what you might want given what you wrote below... > However, what would actually make sense would be to offer a configuration option that > clearly states which of the signature options (and signing material) should be used. > Clearly the ability to configure this will be needed. I think I agree here but, if I understand you correctly, wouldn't this be best accomplished via references to keystore keys/certificates? > If you want to accommodate this, Actually, I'm just probing the issue. I was hoping the response was going to be "this was discussed by the working group here: <link to email-thread>" and we could move on. But since that does not seem to be the case, it would be good for the WG (not me) to decide if we want/need to accommodate this. What do people think? Options: a) leave as is (and document the shortcoming) b) remove signing-options (add back later when ready) c) address the issue now > you probably need to consider another modification to the model: It is conceivable that there > could be multiple signers, and different signers might each use a different option. Therefore, to > allow for differentiation by signer, you might want to consider introducing a corresponding > parameter under a list of signers. (You could even move the configuration parameters into this > list, although frankly I would opt to keep those parameters global (and the use of the model > simple), not per-signer.) True, and potentially a reason to not go with (a) as, with that option, it may not be easy to add in this kind of flexibility later in a backwards-compatible manner. Thanks, Kent // shepherd
- [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-syslo… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Alex Campbell
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Clyde Wildes (cwildes)
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Clyde Wildes (cwildes)
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Alex Campbell
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Clyde Wildes (cwildes)
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Clyde Wildes (cwildes)
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Clyde Wildes (cwildes)
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Alex Campbell
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Alexander Clemm
- [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-12 t.petch
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-12 Clyde Wildes (cwildes)
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Clyde Wildes (cwildes)
- Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-s… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-12 t.petch
- Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-12 Clyde Wildes (cwildes)
- Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-12 t.petch