Re: [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mount: Namespace issues
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Thu, 24 March 2016 13:15 UTC
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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mount: Namespace issues
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:56:40PM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> writes: > > > The fact that anydata can represent "really anything" does not mean > > that every server MUST allow the client to create "really anything" > > for all anydata config nodes. It will depend on the semantics of each > > particular anydata node. > > Schema validation is effectively disabled for anydata nodes. This may be > a problem especially for implementations that perform validation as a > separate step, perhaps automatically from the data model. > > And with schema validation out of the way, it is easier to exploit > potential bugs in the server. > Lada, as far as I recall you wrote an I-D that proposed to mount data anywhere. So what did change your mind that you now want strict schema validation? > > I think that using mount-point as a substatement to anydata is in fact > > the only really safe option to mount. Both the proposed solutions in > > Well, if safe means (partial) compatibility of old clients - and I am > not even convinced about this. Otherwise it is IMO less safe because the > schema is loosened. > > > the current structural mount and ysdl drafts are unsafe for clients > > that don't understand the mount. > > True. What do you mean with 'partial' compatibility? I also do not understand which schema is 'loosened'? Can you give me an example of 'partial' compatibility and 'loosened' schema? Do you have a counter proposal that avoids these issues? /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mount:… Anton Tkáčik
- Re: [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mo… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mo… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mo… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mo… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mo… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mo… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mo… chopps
- Re: [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mo… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mo… chopps