Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 (4911)
Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Wed, 18 January 2017 14:24 UTC
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From: Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 (4911)
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> On 18 Jan 2017, at 14:55, Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> wrote: > > RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote: >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6020, >> "YANG - A Data Modeling Language for the Network Configuration >> Protocol (NETCONF)". >> >> -------------------------------------- >> You may review the report below and at: >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6020&eid=4911 >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Type: Technical >> Reported by: Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> >> >> Section: 6.1.3 >> >> Original Text >> ------------- >> Within a double-quoted string (enclosed within " "), a backslash >> character introduces a special character, which depends on the >> character that immediately follows the backslash: >> >> \n new line >> \t a tab character >> \" a double quote >> \ a single backslash >> >> >> Corrected Text >> -------------- >> Within a double-quoted string (enclosed within " "), a backslash >> character introduces a special character, which depends on the >> character that immediately follows the backslash: >> >> \n new line >> \t a tab character >> \" a double quote >> \ a single backslash >> >> The backslash MUST NOT be followed by any other character. >> >> Notes >> ----- >> The text doesn't state whether other characters may follow the >> backslash, and if yes, what it means. Existing implementations have >> used three approaches: >> >> 1. report an error if another character follows the backslash >> 2. keep only the character following the backslash, i.e., for example, >> "\x" is the same as "x". >> 3. keep both the backslash and the character following it. >> >> This ambiguity is undesirable and YANG 1.1 [RFC 7950] explicitly >> adopted option #1. However, many modules are still being written using >> YANG version 1.0, so it is important to clarify this issue in RFC 6020 >> as well. > > I don't think this errata should be accepted. As stated, the spec is > unclear, and YANG 1.1 has fixed this problem. But it is not clear > that the original intention when RFC 6020 was written was #1. > Accepting this errata now would make existing implementations and > modules invalid. The problem is that the spec is clearly ambiguous and it is impossible to decide whether such a module is valid or not and, if it is, what the other backslash-escaped characters mean. Existing implementations can already reject such modules - the fact that pyang (and probably other tail-f tools) adopted one interpretation doesn't mean that everybody does the same. > > The solution moving forward is to use YANG 1.1. > YANG 1.0 modules continue to be written, and I think it is important to stop this problem from spreading further. I think tools should at least issue a warning because otherwise future upgrades to YANG 1.1 may become a nightmare - modules will suddenly break in unexpected places. If this erratum is rejected, what is the basis for accepting erratum #4909 that started this discussion? Lada > > /martin -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Martin Bjorklund
- [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 (491… RFC Errata System
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … William Lupton
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Phil Shafer
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6020 … Lou Berger