[netmod] referencing the tree-diagrams draft

Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> Thu, 07 December 2017 20:19 UTC

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From: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
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Subject: [netmod] referencing the tree-diagrams draft
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All,

Looking at a few drafts going through last call currently, I notice that they all define their own "Tree Diagrams" section rather than reference the tree-diagrams draft:

  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-entity-05#section-1.1.1
  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis-00#section-1.3
  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis-00#section-1.3

I realize that the tree-diagrams draft isn't published yet, but my understanding is that its Last Call is imminent.  With that in mind, *should* these three drafts (and, by extension, all drafts going forward) be updated to reference the tree-diagrams draft?  - or are we currently in a grey area where it's a "may" until the tree-diagrams draft is published, at which time it becomes a "must"?

Kent  // co-chair