Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem
Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> Tue, 29 October 2019 20:14 UTC
Return-Path: <mbj@tail-f.com>
X-Original-To: netmod@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: netmod@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3F61200E3 for <netmod@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:14:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.899
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id StHR_B8VbSP7 for <netmod@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:13:58 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail.tail-f.com (mail.tail-f.com [46.21.102.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8907F12007A for <netmod@ietf.org>; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:13:58 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (h-4-44.A165.priv.bahnhof.se [158.174.4.44]) by mail.tail-f.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D7261AE047C; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 21:13:56 +0100 (CET)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 21:13:56 +0100
Message-Id: <20191029.211356.1886721657930464996.mbj@tail-f.com>
To: kent+ietf@watsen.net
Cc: netmod@ietf.org
From: Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>
In-Reply-To: <0100016e18283926-a00d7d13-4539-4ab0-afe8-9b9575659f6c-000000@email.amazonses.com>
References: <0100016e130d724c-9d02480e-901f-4e5a-90b4-6acd1095bb26-000000@email.amazonses.com> <20191029.105145.1576535683983216532.mbj@tail-f.com> <0100016e18283926-a00d7d13-4539-4ab0-afe8-9b9575659f6c-000000@email.amazonses.com>
X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 25.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod/M_jLUoq1-z4vjc83uwFr8mfUA48>
Subject: Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem
X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: NETMOD WG list <netmod.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/netmod>, <mailto:netmod-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/netmod/>
List-Post: <mailto:netmod@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:netmod-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod>, <mailto:netmod-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 20:14:01 -0000
Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net> wrote: > > Hi Martin, > > > I have now filed an errata for this issue. > > Ack. > > > However, I remember that we had a discussion on whether we should > > accept erratas on YANG modules or not. The YANG module exist in > > various places outside of the RFC, such as the IANA site, and it won't > > be corrected there. > > Yes, two thoughts: > - this erratum could marked as document update required. > - we may want to publish a -biz soon > > > > >> In that case, there might be two issues: > >> > >> 1) the description statement excluding CA certs (mentioned before) > >> 2) `mandatory true` should be `mandatory false` ? > > > > I don't understand 2), can you elaborate? > > > First, let me demote (2) from a SHOULD to a MAY, since there is a > workaround. > > The thinking is that it may be common for deployments to use the same > "cert-to-name" strategy everywhere (e.g., IDevID certificates), and > hence there is no need to specify a "fingerprint" in order to lookup > what strategy to use. For these cases, it would be better to not > specify a fingerprint at all. If this remains "mandatory true", the > best fallback would be to specify the fingerprint for the *root* CA > certs spanning the end-entity certs connecting to that endpoint. Are we still talking about the usage of cert-to-name in ietf-netconf-server? If so we have (as one example): +--rw netconf-server +--rw listen! {ssh-listen or tls-listen}? ... +--rw endpoint* [name] ... +--rw (transport) ... +--:(tls) {tls-listen}? +--rw tls ... +--rw netconf-server-parameters +--rw client-identification +--rw cert-maps +--rw cert-to-name* [id] +--rw id uint32 +--rw fingerprint x509c2n:tls-fingerprint +--rw map-type identityref +--rw name string [we can discuss if this is the best structure, but that's another thread] What would a "cert-to-name" entry mean if the fingerprint isn't present? > New issue. Why isn't "list cert-to-name" order-by user as opposed to: > > "The id specifies the order in which the entries in the > cert-to-name list are searched. Entries with lower > numbers are searched first."; > > I suspect that this is for SNMP compatibility, but then your earlier > response on this thread said regarding "mandatory true" and empty > fingerprint values suggested that more appropriate YANG-isms should be > used, in general. "ordered-by user" vs "ordered by id" seems like > such a case. Yes I agree. I don't recall but I also suspect the motivation was simple mapping to the MIB. (mapping a zero-length string to/from an optional leaf is straightforward). /martin
- [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem [WAS: [netc… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem [WAS: [… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] x509c2n:cert-to-name problem Kent Watsen