Re: [netmod] YANG Versioning Weekly Call Minutes - 2021-06-08

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Tue, 08 June 2021 17:49 UTC

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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2021 10:48:54 -0700
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Subject: Re: [netmod] YANG Versioning Weekly Call Minutes - 2021-06-08
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On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 10:39 AM Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) <
jason.sterne@nokia.com> wrote:

> YANG Versioning Weekly Call Minutes - 2021-06-08
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> Submodule vs Module in module versioning draft:
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> - avoid 'artifact', put "submodule or module" everywhere it is applicable
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> - Reshad: add "or submodules" in most places.
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> Non duplicate revision dates:
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> - revision-label is just another label for that revision date
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> - we won't say anything in our drafts about non-duplicate revision dates
> in a revision history. This is something for YANG NEXT.
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>


Can you find any text in RFC 7950 that says that a module
with a specific name and revision date can refer to multiple YANG modules?
It seems like the opposite is true -- that if the name and revision date
are the
same then they refer to the same specific module.


Andy


YANG SemVer Draft - IETF 110 feedback
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> Raise github issue in verdt *and* against pyang to flag when a module or
> submodule is missing a revision label
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> Raise github issue to review the IANA guidelines (in our 2 drafts) with
> IANA folks
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> We discussed pre-release version precedence
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> - can't assume precedence of pre-release versions
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> - wipe out the pre-release revision history when publishing the final
> version (SHOULD) ?  or when publishing each pre-release version? Put this
> guidance in Module Revision Handling (instead of Semver ?)
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> - Joe to propose wording
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> Rgds,
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> Jason
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