Re: [netmod] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-bjorklund-netmod-snmp-cfg-00

Hi,

So the operators explained that one of the major problems with the MIB
approach is that the MIB data models did not allow configuring
**everything** on a target device, whereas CLI gave them access to
everything.

If YANG modeling is going to be more useful than MIB modeling, it has
a long way to go to make everything on the box configurable using
Netconf. Certainly some things might be more important than others,
but I am with Juergen that individual YANG models are better than
none. 

If you want to prioritize IETF efforts at standardizing YANG models,
then it would be wise to focus on widely-deployed IETF standard
technologies that operators find fairly complex to configure. SNMP is
one of the IETF standards that fit that description. Of course, many
deployments of widely-deployed IETF technolgies are based on toolkits
or licensed stacks, so convincing the toolkit producers to support
configuration using Netconif and YANG will be fairly important to
encouraging Netconf/YANG deployment. Some of the major SNMP toolkit
vendors are actively participating in, or actively monitoring the
progress of, YANG so the SNMP toolkit environment might be a pretty
good priority. 

If you attend NANOG, a tremendous amount of discussion is about
routing protocols like BGP, so that would also be a reasonable
priority. Are the leading vendors of routing stacks active in netmod? 

dbh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: netmod-bounces@ietf.org 
> [mailto:netmod-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Juergen Schoenwaelder
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:45 PM
> To: Andy Bierman
> Cc: Andy Bierman; netmod@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [netmod] Fw: New Version Notification for 
> draft-bjorklund-netmod-snmp-cfg-00
> 
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 01:19:30PM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
> 
> > SNMP is configured via CLI, and the config is simple and rather
> > limited in scope.
> 
> So you are saying there is no need for NETCONF since there is always
a
> proprietary CLI that does the job. Interesting late insights?
> 
> > A standard that forced us to implement lots more SNMP config knobs
> > is not a priority.
> 
> We do not claim this is a priority work item. I personally would
> appreciate to see more YANG data models popping up in individual
IDs.
> But perhaps this is not welcome by everyone.
> 
> /js
> 
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