Re: [netmod] Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

Hi Med,

I’ve been slow to provide follow-up responses to you regarding the "Adherence to the NMDA" and "Security Considerations" sections, which I have refined even more since our last interactions here.

1) In the Adherence to the NMDA section, I know that I pushed before to invert the recommendation from before, along with a promise to then eliminate the section from all my drafts.  But then I looked at all my drafts and found that I was saying some pretty meaningly things.  I think that my current position is now “neutral” - that is, don’t say how it is NMDA-compliant (as all YANG modules SHOULD be now) nor say how it is not compliant (as none SHOULD be), but rather say what might be useful to say.  This may be unique to these drafts, as they partially depend on the existence of an <operational> datastore, which is define by NMDA.  To get a feel for what I mean, check out these sections:

	https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netconf-crypto-types#section-1.3
	https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netconf-trust-anchors#section-1.3
	https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netconf-keystore#section-1.4
	https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netconf-tcp-client-server#section-1.3
	https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netconf-ssh-client-server#section-1.4
	https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netconf-tls-client-server#section-1.4
	https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netconf-http-client-server#section-1.3
	https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-client-server#section-1.3
	https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-client-server#section-1.3

2) In the Security Considerations section, the template should be amended to have the following paragraph:

	Please be aware that this YANG module uses groupings from other YANG
	modules that define nodes that may be considered sensitive or vulnerable
	in network environments. Please review the Security Considerations for
	dependent YANG modules for information as to which nodes may be
	considered sensitive or vulnerable in network environments.

Below is top of mind, but I invite/encourage you to read said sections (and the IANA Considerations section too) in, e.g., https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netconf-ssh-client-server to see if I missed anything.

Kent

> On Feb 28, 2024, at 4:51 AM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> I think that this version is ready for the WGLC.
> 
> The document fully covers the items promised when requesting adoption [1]. As listed in the ACK section, we also solicited and integrated feedback from many yangdoctors, solicited SAAG WG to review the security text, etc. Refer to 1.1 for a comprehensive list of the changes.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> [1] Slide#7 of https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/117/materials/slides-117-netmod-7-guidelines-for-authors-and-reviewers-of-documents-containing-yang-data-models-00 
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>>   Title:   Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of Documents
>> Containing YANG Data Models
>>   Authors: Andy Bierman
>>            Mohamed Boucadair
>>            Qin Wu
>>   Name:    draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-09.txt
>>   Pages:   84
>>   Dates:   2024-02-28
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>>   modules.  Recommendations and procedures are defined, which are
>>   intended to increase interoperability and usability of Network
>>   Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) and RESTCONF protocol
>>   implementations that utilize YANG modules.  This document obsoletes
>>   RFC 8407.
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