Re: [netmod] current IETF91 Netmod Preliminary Agenda

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Tue, 04 November 2014 18:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [netmod] current IETF91 Netmod Preliminary Agenda
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Hi,

It is 1640 - 1910 : 2.5 hours

None of these design teams working on NETMOD chartered drafts.
IMO we should be focusing on finishing chartered NETMOD work.

I don't agree these IETF WG meetings should be slideware forums to
promote anything related to YANG.  (There should be a meeting slot for
this sort of thing -- something between a Bar Bof and a real BoF).


Andy


On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Mahesh Jethanandani
<mjethanandani@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tom, the Thursday session is one hour long. The discussion of individual
> design teams is 35 min. long not counting the time the chairs need to agenda
> bashing and giving updates. Andy needs 10 min. for conformance and 30-45
> min. to discuss YANG 1.1. Seems we need to divide up 1.1 discussion between
> Thursday and Friday leaving whatever non-chartered work for any remaining
> time.
>
> On Tue Nov 04 2014 at 10:10:37 AM Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Thomas Nadeau <tnadeau@lucidvision.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Nov 4, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Thomas D. Nadeau
>> >> <tnadeau@lucidvision.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>        Sorry for replying to my own post, but I forgot to mention this
>> >>> is an initial/draft agenda. Please comment/bash ASAP.
>> >>
>> >> I will bash....
>> >>
>> >> It has been a tradition to discuss chartered work before
>> >> want-to-be-chartered work.
>> >> I see that is no longer the case. YANG "Peer Mount Requirements" is a
>> >> contentious
>> >> topic and will probably go over 15 minutes.  Is this discussion
>> >> limited to the YANG
>> >> language aspects or will the protocol aspects be on the agenda as well?
>> >
>> > There are some in scope and some maybe-in-scope later parts of this. Les
>> > discuss how best to structure the discussion.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I notice YANG 1.1 is not on the agenda at all.
>> >> I know Martin and Juergen cannot be there, but we have
>> >> support for remote attendance and there are plenty of
>> >> open issues to discuss.
>> >
>> > No one volunteered the section. Shall I put you down to lead the
>> > discussion ? ;)
>> >
>>
>> OK -- I will lead the YANG 1.1 discussion.
>> Instead of a hour on 4 YANG mount drafts on Thursday,
>> I suggest spending 30 - 45 minutes on the YANG 1.1
>> open issue list.
>>
>> There is plenty of time on Friday to discuss unchartered work.
>>
>> > Tom
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>        --Tom
>> >>
>> >> Andy
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Nov 4, 2014:4:03 PM, at 4:03 PM, Thomas D. Nadeau
>> >>>> <tnadeau@lucidvision.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>      This is the current agenda I have to-date. Are there any other
>> >>>> requests for discussion slots?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>      --Tom
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>      Peer Mount Discussion/drafts    15 min  Eric Voit
>> >>>> evoit@cisco.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-voit-netmod-peer-mount-requirements/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>      “Design Teams” update.          10 min
>> >>>> jason.sterne@alcatel-lucent.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>              o   List of all known “design teams” that are working on
>> >>>>                      YANG models (especially ones that may be
>> >>>>                      progressing outside of the IETF mailing lists)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>              o   Ideally a brief status update from one of the
>> >>>> primary
>> >>>>                      leaders/contributors (i.e. a few bullet points /
>> >>>> 1-2 minutes)
>> >>>>                      for each one (not to discuss the technical
>> >>>> details of specific
>> >>>>                      models – that could be other agenda items)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>      YANG conformance issues.        10 min  Andy Bierman Andy
>> >>>> Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bierman-netmod-yang-conformance-04.txt
>> >>>>
>> >>>>      draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-16                5       Lada
>> >>>> Lhotka lhotka@nic.cz
>> >>>>      draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-01                  5       Lada
>> >>>> Lhotka lhotka@nic.cz
>> >>>>      draft-lhotka-netmod-yang-metadata-00            5       Lada
>> >>>> Lhotka lhotka@nic.cz
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>      Dana Blair dblair@cisco.com
>> >>>>      Dean Bogdanovic deanb@juniper.net               10      ACL Yang
>> >>>> Model
>> >>>>
>> >>>>      Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com     10      BFD Yang
>> >>>> Model
>> >>>
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