Re: [netmod] MD5 in ianach ex-RFC7317

tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Thu, 11 February 2021 12:51 UTC

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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: Kent Watsen <kent@watsen.net>, Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Thread-Topic: [netmod] MD5 in ianach ex-RFC7317
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Subject: Re: [netmod] MD5 in ianach ex-RFC7317
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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
Sent: 10 February 2021 17:32
RFC 8407:

4.  YANG Usage Guidelines

   Modules in IETF Standards Track specifications MUST comply with all
   syntactic and semantic requirements of YANG 1.1 [RFC7950].

The rule you quoted does not apply since we are talking about an IANA
document.

<tp>

Yes.  This is the sort of detail that I would leave to IANA to sort out trusting them to come back as and when they want clarification.  I would start with a reference clause to the current version on the IANA website.  The weakness of this is that once IANA have performed the update, then the previous version will not be readily available, unlike RFC which last a long time but as I say, leave the detail to IANA.

Tom Petch
/js

On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 05:25:26PM +0000, Kent Watsen wrote:
>
>
> > On Feb 10, 2021, at 11:46 AM, tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> wrote:
> >
> > Not quite for me.  The current version is that on the IANA website, RFC7317 is history at least for IANACH so I think that the YANG reference for the update should be to the IANA website.
> >
>
> Please provide OLD/NEW text.
>
> FWIW, RFC8407 says:
>
>    A "revision" statement MUST be present for each published version of
>    the module.  The "revision" statement MUST have a "reference"
>    substatement.  It MUST identify the published document that contains
>    the module.
>
> So what is the “document”?
>
>     revision 2021-MM-DD {
>       description
>         “Deprecated the 'crypt-hash-md5’ feature per RFC 6151.";
>       reference
>         "RFC 6151:
>              Updated Security Considerations for the MD5
>              Message-Digest and the HMAC-MD5 Algorithms";
>     }
>
> But note that 6151 was published long before 7317 and, besides, it doesn’t “deprecate” MD5.
>
> We can’t reference 8573 because it's NTP-specific.  Perhaps iana-crypt-hash is fine, and instead ntp-yang-data-model should be republished, augmenting in the desired “status” while referencing 8573.
>
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