Re: [netmod] kw comments on draft-voit-netmod-yang-mount-requirements

"Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com> Fri, 08 April 2016 13:32 UTC

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From: "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
Thread-Topic: [netmod] kw comments on draft-voit-netmod-yang-mount-requirements
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Subject: Re: [netmod] kw comments on draft-voit-netmod-yang-mount-requirements
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> From: Juergen Schoenwaelder, April 08, 2016 2:58 AM
> 
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 02:20:19AM +0000, Eric Voit (evoit) wrote:
> > My thinking matches more closely to what Kent lays out above:
> >
> > schema-mount
> > data-mount
> > remote data mount   (a.k.a. peer mount)
> > local data mount        (a.k.a. alias mount)
> >
> > The value in the term "yang mount" is that it provides a conceptual umbrella to
> ensure a cohesive syntax across the four valid permutations of the above.  The
> term itself was never intended to be implementable.
> >
> 
> So why do we need 'local data mount' (aka 'alias mount')? Which problem does
> it solve that 'peer mounting' localhost does not solve?

To me it comes down to ease of use for the developer. If the system only allows mounting localhost, why require that parameter in the syntax?   That parameter shouldn't even be available/visible for entry. 

Eric

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