Re: [netmod] Fwd: Re: [Rtg-dt-yang-arch] I-D Action: draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-03.txt

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Fri, 04 March 2016 13:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [netmod] Fwd: Re: [Rtg-dt-yang-arch] I-D Action: draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-03.txt
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...and schema mount enables *avoiding* a restrictive model that will impact 
all models. Which is why it's such an important construct.

Lou


On March 4, 2016 7:50:20 AM Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> wrote:

>
> We're already on it.  This draft was discussed on the NETMOD virtual 
> interim meeting last week.  It is what is spurring the schema mount drafts 
> and discussions of late.
>
> Thanks,
> Kent
>
>> On Mar 4, 2016, at 5:33 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder 
>> <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
>>
>> Is the rtgyangdt chartered to define a structure that potentially
>> affects all YANG models produced in the IETF?
>>
>> /js
>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 11:27:23AM +0100, Benoit Claise wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> This draft is extremely important because it doesn't only cover routing
>>> information but it wants to impose a structure for all YANG models.
>>> Please review and comment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards, Benoit
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject:    Re: [Rtg-dt-yang-arch] I-D Action:
>>> draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-03.txt
>>> Date:    Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:55:31 +0000
>>> From:    Jeff Tantsura <jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com>
>>> To:    Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
>>> CC:    Routing Area YANG Architecture DT <rtg-dt-yang-arch@ietf.org>,
>>> Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi RTGWG,
>>>
>>> Given the importance of the document, please do review and provide your
>>> comments, suggestions and in case you wouldn't support it as is  - what
>>> should be changed/missing.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>  This draft has been updated to use an emerging yang  capability
>>>> called 'schema-mount' [1] which translates to a significant
>>>> simplification.  To quote the draft:
>>>>
>>>> Schema Mount enables a dramatic simplification of the presented
>>>> device model, particularly for "lower-end" devices which are unlikely
>>>> to support multiple network instances or logical network elements.
>>>> Should structural-mount/YSDL not be available, the more explicit tree
>>>> structure presented in earlier versions of this document will need to
>>>> be utilized.
>>>>
>>>> As it looks like there will soon be a netmod WG draft on schema mount,
>>>> we think it's time to ask the WG to consider adopting our draft as a RTG
>>>> WG draft.
>>>>
>>>> [1] There was a netmod interim on schema mount on Monday, see
>>>> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/netmod-interim-20160222
>>>>
>>>> Our slides from that meeting are available at
>>>> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2016/02/22/netmod/slides/slides-interim-2016-netmod-1-1.pptx
>>>> and it gives a brief overview of the current draft.
>>>>
>>>> Lou (and co-authors)
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> Subject:    I-D Action: draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-03.txt
>>>> Date:    Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:29:51 -0800
>>>> From:    internet-drafts@ietf.org
>>>> Reply-To:    internet-drafts@ietf.org
>>>> To:    i-d-announce@ietf.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>>> directories.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      Title           : Network Device YANG Organizational Models
>>>>      Authors         : Acee Lindem
>>>>                        Lou Berger
>>>>                        Dean Bogdanovic
>>>>                        Christan Hopps
>>>>  Filename        : draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-03.txt
>>>>  Pages           : 36
>>>>  Date            : 2016-02-23
>>>>
>>>> Abstract:
>>>> This document presents an approach for organizing YANG models in a
>>>> comprehensive structure that may be used to configure and operate
>>>> network devices.  The structure is itself represented as a YANG
>>>> model, with all of the related component models logically organized
>>>> in a way that is operationally intuitive, but this model is not
>>>> expected to be implemented.  The identified component modules are
>>>> expected to be defined and implemented on common network devices.
>>>>
>>>> This document also defines two modules that can be used to model the
>>>> logical and virtual resource representations that may be present on a
>>>> network device.  Examples of common industry terms for logical
>>>> resource representations are Logical Systems or Routers.  Examples of
>>>> of common industry terms for virtual resource representations are
>>>> Virtual Routing and Forwarding (VRF) instances and Virtual Switch
>>>> Instances (VSIs).
>>>>
>>>> This document is derived from work submitted to the IETF by members
>>>> of the informal OpenConfig working group of network operators and is
>>>> a product of the Routing Area YANG Architecture design team.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model/
>>>>
>>>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-03
>>>>
>>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-03
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>>>> submission
>>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>>
>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>>>
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