Re: [netmod] 6087bis namespace recommendations

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Fri, 15 January 2016 14:49 UTC

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 06:49:19 -0800
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From: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
To: Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] 6087bis namespace recommendations
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:19 AM, Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> wrote:

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> > On 15 Jan 2016, at 15:10, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 3:55 AM, Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> wrote:
> >
> > > On 15 Jan 2016, at 12:49, Juergen Schoenwaelder <
> j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:39:16PM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Does this solve any practical problem? Modules are imported based on
> > >> the module name and revision. On the other hand, it does create new
> problems:
> > >> namespace URIs and their mappings to prefixes may be spread in many
> > >> places in the code, and these would have to be manually edited after
> an
> > >> I-D -> RFC transition.
> > >>
> > >> It would IMO be much better to use revision numbers rather than dates,
> > >> and adopt a convention, e.g., that modules in the I-D stage have
> > >> revisions 0.x that get bumped with each new revision of the I-D.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Lada, this is not how our current YANG 1.0 versioning and revision
> > > rules work and we are not going to change them in YANG 1.1 either.
> > > The rules we have do make a distinction between published modules and
> > > modules that are unpublished.
> >
> > I am not proposing it. The problem I'd like to get solved is proper
> module revisioning already at the I-D stage so that implementations be able
> to distinguish one revision from another. Appending DRAFT to the namespace
> URI doesn't help anything.
> >
> >
> >
> > Changing the module name constantly does not help.
> > It would be better to just keep using revision dates.
>
> Some I-Ds don't do even that, for example acl-model uses the same revision
> date in subsequent I-D revisions. I checked that this actually violates a
> MUST in RFC 6087.
>
>

If the YANG module does not change from one I-D to the next,
then the revision date does not need to change.



> Lada
>
>
Andy


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> > Andy
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Re: [netmod] 6087bis namespace recommendations Juergen Schoenwaelder
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Re: [netmod] 6087bis namespace recommendations Juergen Schoenwaelder
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Re: [netmod] 6087bis namespace recommendations Andy Bierman
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Re: [netmod] 6087bis namespace recommendations Ladislav Lhotka
Re: [netmod] 6087bis namespace recommendations Ladislav Lhotka
Re: [netmod] 6087bis namespace recommendations Andy Bierman
Re: [netmod] 6087bis namespace recommendations Ladislav Lhotka
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Re: [netmod] 6087bis namespace recommendations Juergen Schoenwaelder
Re: [netmod] 6087bis namespace recommendations Robert Wilton
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