Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again)
Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Fri, 14 June 2019 07:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again)
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On Wed, 2019-06-12 at 11:25 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 10:01:30AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > I think it is very unfortunate that OpenConfig folks use POSIX regular > > expressions instead of XSD. This of course causes confusion, see e.g. this > > PR: > > > > https://github.com/CZ-NIC/yangson/pull/22 > > > > Given the popularity of OpenConfig models, it seems to me that it would be > > better if YANG somehow accomodates such (largely cosmetic) differences. > > The differences are not cosmetic. See previous discussions on this topic. What I meant is that such differences are still relatively easy to handle, unlike e.g. the schema structure that is incompatible with the current conventions and NMDA. > > > One option would be that each YANG module declares the regex flavour used in > > its > > patterns. Yes, it is a complication, but having separate forks of YANG is > > much > > worse. > > It is sad that OpenConfig does not follow the standard. If OpenConfig > can't live without POSIX regular expressions, then OpenConfig should > have used proper extension statements instead of simply changing the > semantics of the YANG pattern statement to measn something > different. That said, they do seem to declare something like > oc-ext:regexp-posix; but it would have been much smarter to use for > example oc-posix:regex instead of changing the semantics of the > pattern statement. > > I would rather see OpenConfig adopting the standard or fixing their > POSIX regular expression solution so that it avoids changing the > semantics of YANG statements. Having statements mean different things > depending on some context is pretty bad design. I agree with all this but, apparently, OpenConfig people don't care too much. And since they are much more agile than the IETF, our views may soon become irrelevant. Lada > > /js > -- Ladislav Lhotka Head, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Robert Varga
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Robert Varga
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Carsten Bormann
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Carsten Bormann
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Carsten Bormann
- Re: [netmod] regular expression flavours (again) Robert Varga