Re: [Netrqmts] IETF 105 Minutes

"Livingood, Jason" <> Tue, 30 July 2019 17:48 UTC

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No changes - looks accurate. It'd be good if someone, such as from the NOC, could circulate a 1st draft of the survey questions for the 3 separate surveys:
1 - IETF Meeting Venue Network Preferences
2 - IETF Hotel Network Preferences
3 - Terminal Room Preferences and Usage 

On #3 - Terminal Room (TR), here are some I drafted based on my notes during the meeting at IETF-105:
- Have you used the TR before (at this or any prior IETF) or is this your first time? [prior user / first time]
- Do you regularly use the TR at each IETF meeting, or only as needed? [regular user / as needed]
- This week, have you used or do you plan to use the TR more than once? [frequent user / one time user]
- Does your use of the TR depend on whether or not you stayed at the primary IETF hotel, such that if you are NOT at the primary IETF hotel you use the TR between WG sessions? [yes, use TR when not at IETF hotel / no, my usage does not change based on my hotel accommodations]
- Does whether the IETF meeting venue has sufficient common area seating influence your use of the TR, such that if the venue has less common area seating you are more likely to use the TR? [yes, less common seating = more likely to use TR / no]
- Do you depend on having a printer in the TR? [yes / no]
- Do you require a wired Ethernet in TR or is WiFi sufficient? [MUST have Ethernet / WiFi is fine]
- Do you depend on 24-hour access to the TR? [Yes, need 24-hour access / No, during regular IETF meeting hours is fine]
- When you use the TR, do you use the power strips to charge / power your devices? [yes / no]
- If the TR was eliminated, how would that affect you? [My IETF week would be less effective / I could not do my regular job / I don't care whether or not there is a TR]
- Are there any unmet TR requirements or preferences that you have? [free form text]
- Are there any current TR features that should be eliminated? [free form text]
- Do you have any other comments? [free form text]

Also regarding the Terminal Room, we should decide if someone is asked to take the survey each time they visit the room or once for the entire week. I may recommend we at least advertise the need for a survey in the terminal room itself with the survey URL - and a call to action. For example: "The IETF is current re-evaluating our needs for a Terminal Room and what attendees find most useful. Please complete a survey on your usage of the Terminal Room at XXXXX." 


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