Re: [Netslices] Open Issue II: Service Model

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From: "Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo)" <hannu.flinck@nokia-bell-labs.com>
To: Shunsuke Homma <homma.shunsuke@lab.ntt.co.jp>, "qiangli (D)" <qiangli3@huawei.com>, "Diego R. Lopez" <diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com>, "NetSlices@ietf.org" <NetSlices@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Netslices] Open Issue II: Service Model
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Hello Shunsuke

"Common" here refers to "common across the multiple implementation technologies".
See more  in https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement-01.txt. Figure 2 and 3.


- Hannu

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From: Netslices [mailto:netslices-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Shunsuke Homma
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To: qiangli (D) <qiangli3@huawei.com>; Diego R. Lopez <diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com>; NetSlices@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Netslices] Open Issue II: Service Model

Hi Christina,

Thank you for your response.

Sorry for confusing you. I meant "targets" are use cases or deployment 
scenarios of network slices. For example, in my understanding, 3GPP is 
focusing on use cases in mobile networks. What use cases is COMS 
considering? (Does the use case draft cover all use cases which 
IETF/COMS should consider?)

Actually, some high level requirements are described in some 
netslicing/coms drafts, but they seem not to be broken down enough to 
judge whether existing technologies can enough support every use case of 
network slicing.

By the way, I'm little bit confused by a word, "common". Do you mean 
that the goal of COMS is providing interfaces for current network 
components? Or defining architecture, information model, and interface 
which can support every network slicing use case?

Regards,

Shunsuke

On 2017/12/14 18:15, qiangli (D) wrote:
> Hi Shunsuke,
> 
> The former email entitled "Summary of Open Issues" is discussing the targets, and charter similar things of COMS.
> 
> Simply speaking, COMS tries to do a resource-centric common management plane upon multiple implementation technologies. We have preliminarily listed 6 potential directions in that email. In addition to these, some technical issues such as how to stitch network slice subnets also have been discussed in COMS. Welcome to reply your opinion under that thread, and help us to enhance it.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Cristina QIANG
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shunsuke Homma [mailto:homma.shunsuke@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 8:48 PM
> To: Diego R. Lopez <diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com>; qiangli (D) <qiangli3@huawei.com>; NetSlices@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Netslices] Open Issue II: Service Model
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Have targets of network slicing of COMS/IETF and their concrete requirements been already clarified? If they are not clear, I think we can't judge whether current WGs' solutions are enough to support management on network slices. Why don't we clarify requirements firstly?
> 
> Of course, we would be able to refer related works such as L2SM/L3SM or OSM for defining service/information models for network slicing.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Shunsuke
> 
> 
> On 2017/12/13 18:00, Diego R. Lopez wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If we focus on connectivity matters, L2SM/L3SM or similar should be
>> enough. If we start thinking about other resources (storage, compute…)
>> I think we’d need something more. As a starting point, we could use
>> the models being defined by the OSM project:
>>
>> https://osm.etsi.org/wikipub/index.php/OSM_Information_Model
>>
>> Be goode,
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno"
>>
>> Dr Diego R. Lopez
>>
>> Telefonica I+D
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr2lopez/
>>
>> e-mail: diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com
>> <mailto:diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com>
>>
>> Tel:         +34 913 129 041
>>
>> Mobile:  +34 682 051 091
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>>
>> On 13/12/2017, 09:48, "Netslices on behalf of qiangli (D)"
>> <netslices-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:netslices-bounces@ietf.org> on
>> behalf of qiangli3@huawei.com <mailto:qiangli3@huawei.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> This email is trying to collect your opinion on the following issue:
>>
>> Do we need a COMS Service Model? Or do you think current L2SM/L3SM/etc.
>> is enough to support the resource-oriented (including connectivity,
>> computing, storage and other potential resources) common management on
>> network slices?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Cristina QIANG
>>
>>
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